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re: FSU’s loss to UGA did not happen. 13-0 Unconquered Rings unveiled
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:18 pm to 3down10
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:18 pm to 3down10
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Clemson did not have a 2 QB system. Bryant started the entire year before and Lawrence was a freshman.
Well, since TL was inserted in the first half of the first 4 games, you are wrong.
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JT Barrett was not a proven heisman winner,
He finished 5th in the 2014 heisman vote, which is exactly what I said it was: “a proven heisman contender”
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I'm almost certain he did not finish the game against Iowa.
He threw a td with 4 minutes left in the game.
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Tyrod Taylor was the starter and was only replaced when he was injured or had a bad game.
Sean Glennon started the last game of 2006, last game of 2007 and first game of 2008. Very much a team with 2 experienced QB’s both playing in 2008.
You just went 0/4 in back to back posts.
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:55 pm to 3down10
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Auburn blew you out 40-17 in the regular season. Georgia was not the powerhouse you seem to think the were.
A group of self inflicted negative plays could happen again, but not safe to assume so.
Hurts also could have figured out how to pass, but also not safe to assume.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:05 pm to djsdawg
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Well, since TL was inserted in the first half of the first 4 games, you are wrong.
It meets your stupid and very strict criteria, deal with it. You couldn't even attempt a list.
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He finished 5th in the 2014 heisman vote, which is exactly what I said it was: “a proven heisman contender”
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He threw a td with 4 minutes left in the game.
Again, I don't think he finished that game. I don't have the best memory, but I seem to remember him on the sidelines.
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Sean Glennon started the last game of 2006, last game of 2007 and first game of 2008. Very much a team with 2 experienced QB’s both playing in 2008.
He was not the starter, nor did it have anything to do with the fact the multi year QB was benched multiple times because of his performance.
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You just went 0/4 in back to back posts.
No, I didn't. You are just moving the goal posts. None of the bullshite you are claiming was asking for in your list. I gave you the list you asked for.
Apparently, having a good backup is no longer valid. But yet getting play time in some games before the starter loses his job also doesn't count. Being the backup who previously finished 5th(so lol) in a Heisman vote makes you ineligible.
So exactly what are the fricking conditions allowed here?
Meanwhile, you are still at... 0
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:38 pm to 3down10
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meets your stupid and very strict criteria.
Normal, single qb systems don’t use 2 qbs interchangeably. Normal, single qb systems use a clear starter and only let the backup make a few throws in garbage time against juco state. Understand what I am talking about?
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You couldn't even attempt a list.
I can only come up with 1 for the most, and it’s saban, but The burden isn’t on me to produce a list, much less on subject matter that might not even have a second example. My list being 0 or 100 changes nothing in regards to my point about the magnitude of the game impacting a qb decision.
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5th in the 2014 heisman vote,
5th is evidence of impressive play, so You must be laughing because you confused “contender” with “winner”.
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Again, I don't think he finished that game.
Would not even matter. Games are essentially over when in garbage time. A 2nd qb didn’t attempt a pass in the game.
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He was not the starter
Glennon started game 1, which means Taylor did not start game 1. VT 2008 was clearly a 2 qb team, and I assume you admit it didn’t happen in 2009/10.
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You are just moving the goal posts.
How so? Where did I put the goal post at first and where did I move it to?
This is about a very specific situation in football, so strict goal posts are needed, so this is essentially me making sure the goal posts don’t move at all like you want them to.
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Apparently, having a good backup is no longer valid. But yet getting play time in some games before the starter loses his job also doesn't count. Being the backup who previously finished 5th(so lol) in a Heisman vote makes you ineligible.
Normal systems don’t have Heisman finalists as backups, and normal systems dont use 2 qbs.
Find an example that is far more similar to Bama 2017 as that was a normal single qb system. Find qb situations like Player of the Year Hurts and true freshman Tua.
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This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:53 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 4/26/24 at 1:10 pm to BigDickRick16
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tate champs? They have now joined the high school ranks, hell with ACC.
Not to mention they looked like shite against Florida
Posted on 4/26/24 at 2:12 pm to 3down10
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So exactly what are the fricking conditions allowed here?
Single qb systems with a clear starter who is proven and a clear backup who isn’t.
Kind of like almost every team.
Should be easy for you to find 20+ rather quickly.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 3:26 pm to 3down10
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Hell LSU lost 21-0 against Alabama in the 2012 BCS. Jordan Jefferson played the entire game getting an entire 53 yards of passing. And not only did he have a decent backup, that backup played multiple games for them that season in Jarrett Lee.
Are you saying miles did not have either the brains or balls to understand the magnitude of the situation?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:08 pm to Covingtontiger77
They were done dirty. I don’t blame them. As for the UGA game….everyone knew how that game would go given the circumstances. FSU got jobbed and then forced into a match with a team that would’ve beaten 3 of the 4 without question and possibly the 4th.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:57 pm to Prof
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They were done dirty.
It was the right move though as that team sucked arse without their QB.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:04 pm to djsdawg
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Single qb systems with a clear starter who is proven and a clear backup who isn’t.
Kind of like almost every team.
Should be easy for you to find 20+ rather quickly.
And what exactly does this criteria have to do with your claim that Saban wouldn't have benched Hurts for Tua in the regular season?
Do you understand that when you say "proven" QB, you are only talking about what you can visually see, not what the coaches see and know? Do you think Tua hadn't proven himself to Saban in general or that Saban and other coaches are looking at things like "Well, he finished 5th in the Heisman last year"?
Your criteria makes no sense outside you moving the goalposts to avoid the topic. Meanwhile you offer absolutely NOTHING on the other side and I'm not giving you criteria at all.
All so you can pretend Georgia could have beat Alabama in 2017?
You need help. I'm done with this crap, this discussion is just dumb and you just keep moving the goal posts.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:28 pm to 3down10
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And what exactly does this criteria have to do with your claim that Saban wouldn't have benched Hurts for Tua in the regular season?
Most coaches dont have the guts to do it. its a big deal to bench the established starter for an unproven player. It often takes desperation that a regular season game doesnt entail.
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Do you understand that when you say "proven" QB, you are only talking about what you can visually see, not what the coaches see and know?
It all goes hand in hand. Coaches choose their starter based on everything, and they value experience.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:46 pm to 3down10
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Do you think Tua hadn't proven himself to Saban in general
Look at his stats to reveal how proven he was in a real game. There is a reason the starter is the only QB getting legit snaps, and leaving garbage time to the backup.
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other coaches are looking at things like "Well, he finished 5th in the Heisman last year"?
A coach would be much more likely to play the backup when the backup is proven to be elite vs unproven. Surely you understand this.
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Your criteria makes no sense outside you moving the goalposts to avoid the topic
You failed to explain where the goal posts started and where I moved them to because they havent moved at all. It was always about situations similar to Bama 2017.
Problem is, You dont seem to have a good grasp as to how the QB position works for most teams, which is a clear cut starter and a clear cut backup. You dont seem to understand the 2 Qb system either, which involves 2 qbs getting legit snaps.
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Meanwhile you offer absolutely NOTHING on the other side and I'm not giving you criteria at all.
For your request, the criteria involves a VERY small sample size, so the list is naturally going to be very small, and my list was one coach long: Saban. I claimed a small list, and provided a small one.
For my request, the sample size is HUGE, yet you can NOT find a single example of a similar situation as Bama, which is exactly why you wanted this discussion to end already. You claimed a list of MANY, you provided a list of ZERO.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:18 pm to TXnole
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And yall lost to a bunch of whiny bitches with a backup QB in the swamp. So what does that say about you? Good luck winning 3 games this season with that schedule.
UF fans know their team sucks arse.
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