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re: FSU’s loss to UGA did not happen. 13-0 Unconquered Rings unveiled

Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:29 pm to
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That’s bad and so is the 50 yards passing and a fumble against AU, but it was just a regular season game, so he didn’t get benched. It needed to be something much bigger for that to happen.


Yeah, if it's one thing Alabama doesn't care about it, it's the Auburn game.

At this point I'm kind of wondering how dumb you are going to get to avoid admitting you said something stupid.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Yeah, if it's one thing Alabama doesn't care about it, it's the Auburn game.


A national title game is much bigger than a regular season game against AU.

It just is, and here you are trying to argue otherwise. That is the best evidence of DUMB ITT.

Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:55 pm to
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A national title game is much bigger than a regular season game against AU.

It just is, and here you are trying to argue otherwise. That is the best evidence of DUMB ITT.


Everyone knows the bigger the game, the less likely you are to do such a thing.

That's what made it such a big deal and why people were shocked by it. If it hadn't been successful, people would be talking about what a dumb move it was to thrust a backup QB with hardly any real playing time outside mop up garbage time into such a high stakes game.

Hell, I remember when Richt tried it in a regular season game against Alabama, it didn't work and he got scorched for doing such a thing in a big game.

You are just saying the crap you are because it worked out, not because you have any fricking clue(apparently) on why people don't do that shite in high profile games.

Show me all the other times coaches did something like that on purpose in a national championship game.


This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:02 pm to
Of course you got it completely arse backwards:

The bigger the game, the more desperate the coach becomes.

Why? Its do or die. No mulligans after the final game of the season.

Saban wasn’t desperate against AU, and he kept the struggling qb in.

Saban was desperate against UGA, and he finally grew the balls to bench him.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Of course you got it completely arse backwards:

The bigger the game, the more desperate the coach becomes.

Why? Its do or die. No mulligans after the final game of the season.

Saban wasn’t desperate against AU, and he kept the struggling qb in.

Saban was desperate against UGA, and he finally grew the balls to bench him.


If it's true you should have a big list of coaches who threw in their backup QB's when things weren't going good in the national championship game.

I'll wait while you name them.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:06 pm to
Georgia fans aren't trolling you.

The guy was a uconn fan account created earlier this month.

That's the funniest part about you.
You blame UGA fans for some stupid altar account that is probably some Tennessee fan.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:14 pm to
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Georgia fans aren't trolling you.

The guy was a uconn fan account created earlier this month.

That's the funniest part about you.
You blame UGA fans for some stupid altar account that is probably some Tennessee fan.


Huh? The person I initially responded to was djdawgs. I'm pretty sure he didn't create his account earlier this month, and I'm pretty sure he is in fact a Georgia fan.

Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:14 pm to
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The last time Alabama played Georgia, Georgia got it's shite pushed in all game on both sides of the ball.


Not only are you soft, but you don't watch the games.

Georgia had more yards per play than Bama. The entire difference of the game was an unforced fumble at the UGA 11 yard line.

Bama won the game.
Bama deserved to win.

But this "pushed shite in" is just another form of your masterbation.
Because you are alone in that action.
Nobody else is buying the 3 point win off an 11 yard TD scoring drive being anything other than a tight game.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Not only are you not soft, but you don't watch the games.

Georgia had more yards per play than Bama. The entire difference of the game was an unforced fumble at the UGA 11 yard line.

Bama won the game.
Bama deserved to win.

But this "pushed shite in" is just another form of your masterbation.
Because you are alone in that action.
Nobody else is buying the 3 point win off an 11 yard TD scoring drive being anything other than a tight game.


You mean like pretending it didn't happen in the first place?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:31 pm to
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it's true you should have a big list of coaches who threw in their backup QB's when things weren't going good in the national championship game.


Nice try, but I don’t need one other example to support my take because…..

1. Coach's dont like to bench proven qbs.
2. Most coaches don’t have a talented backup qb worthy of replacing a proven starter.
3. Very few teams are in a similar halftime situation of that magnitude.

Saban wouldn’t have done it in a regular season game. Saban wouldn’t have done it if the backup sucked.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 3:39 pm to
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Nice try, but I don’t need one other example to support my take because…..

1. Coach's dont like to bench proven qbs.
2. Most coaches don’t have a talented backup qb worthy of replacing a proven starter.
3. Very few teams are in a similar halftime situation of that magnitude.

Saban wouldn’t have done it in a regular season game. Saban wouldn’t have done it if the backup sucked.


Why not? It should happen often in big games according to you. I mean shouldn't you at least be able to find some garbage time cases?

You wouldn't have trouble finding coaches doing it in the regular season for some reason. In fact, the earlier it is in the season, the more likely it's going to happen.

This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 3:57 pm to
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Why not? It should happen often in big games according to you.


What part of this do you not understand?

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Coach's dont like to bench proven qbs.


Proven multi year starting qbs do NOT get benched often.

It takes a LOT for a coach to make a move that harsh. Thats why it is so rare. Thats why he didn’t do it against AU after that terrible first half performance. Thats why he did it against UGA after that terrible first half performance.

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You wouldn't have trouble finding coaches doing it in the regular season for some reason.


According to you, it is normal, it happens often, every year, every conference, so let’s see your long list of proven, multi year starting qbs getting yanked at halftime of a regular season game.

I can’t wait to be underwhelmed with your list.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 6:44 pm to
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What part of this do you not understand?


You claimed that it was made easier by the fact it was a big game. But you only have 1 single example of it.

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Proven multi year starting qbs do NOT get benched often.

It takes a LOT for a coach to make a move that harsh. Thats why it is so rare. Thats why he didn’t do it against AU after that terrible first half performance. Thats why he did it against UGA after that terrible first half performance.


He did it to win the football game. As I already pointed out about Auburn, the score was 10-7 at halftime, that is why he wasn't pulled.

And this all came from you wanting to pretend Georgia would have beat Alabama in the regular season if they played then instead of the NCG. And I'm not even sure why you think you would have the same gameplan at that point.

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According to you, it is normal, it happens often, every year, every conference, so let’s see your long list of proven, multi year starting qbs getting yanked at halftime of a regular season game.

I can’t wait to be underwhelmed with your list.


Ok, are you admitting that the reason you aren't coming up with a list is because there are no examples to give?

Sure, I'll take your challenge.

In 2018, Bryant was benched for Trevor Lawrence in the 4th game of the year. Bryant ended up transferring out. You may remember Lawrence goes on to win the NC.

In 2015, Cardale Jones finished 2014 as the starter for Ohio St winning the National Championship. He was benched for JT Barrett against Northern Illinois after throwing 2 interceptions. Ohio St squeaked out a win thanks to their defense.

Then in 2017, JT Barrett was benched against Iowa after throwing a bunch of Interceptions, replaced by Dewayne Haskins. Iowa blew Ohio St out big time.

In 2008-2010, Tyrod Taylor was benched multiple times in games. I could probably make a list of just that.

Would you like me to go on?
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 6:47 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:00 pm to
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You claimed that it was made easier by the fact it was a big game.


Are you sure I used the word “easier”? Because I don’t remember doing so.

From the start, I said the magnitude of the situation made saban more desperate, which made the change more likely.

As far as we know, no other coach has had a similar set of circumstances, so the list is naturally going to be very short.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:06 pm to
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And this all came from you wanting to pretend Georgia would have beat Alabama in the regular season if they played then instead of the NCG. And I'm not even sure why you think you would have the same gameplan at that point.


Safe to assume 4 q’s of 2017 hurts wasn’t good enough to beat a team as good as uga 2017. No special game plan was gonna change that.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:07 pm to
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Are you sure I used the word “easier”? Because I don’t remember doing so.

From the start, I said the magnitude of the situation made saban more desperate, which made the change more likely.

As far as we know, no other coach has had a similar set of circumstances, so the list is naturally going to be very short.


If your claim is that you are going to win the game instead of losing the game as you did in the NCG, what part of that doesn't indicate easier?

Whatever you want to claim guy. I even gave you hints on how to possibly find QBs that were benched in garbage time.

Hell LSU lost 21-0 against Alabama in the 2012 BCS. Jordan Jefferson played the entire game getting an entire 53 yards of passing. And not only did he have a decent backup, that backup played multiple games for them that season in Jarrett Lee.

You just don't know what you are talking about, and you refuse to admit it and keep saying stupid crap as a result.




Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Safe to assume 4 q’s of 2017 hurts wasn’t good enough to beat a team as good as uga 2017. No special game plan was gonna change that.


Auburn blew you out 40-17 in the regular season. Georgia was not the powerhouse you seem to think the were.

But whatever, keep making up bullshite fantasies so you can imagine a way in which Georgia is able to beat Alabama in 2017.


This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 7:11 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:42 pm to
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In 2018, Bryant was benched for Trevor Lawrence in the 4th game of the year. Bryant ended up transferring out. You may remember Lawrence goes on to win the NC.


Unlike bama, Clemson used a 2 qb system, and let the winner become the starter, which puts this example on a different list. 0/1.

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In 2015, Cardale Jones finished 2014 as the starter for Ohio St winning the National Championship. He was benched for JT Barrett against Northern Illinois after throwing 2 interceptions. Ohio St squeaked out a win thanks to their defense.


The backup was a proven heisman contender, which means he was more proven than cardale, so this also belongs on a different list. 0/2.

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Then in 2017, JT Barrett was benched against Iowa after throwing a bunch of Interceptions, replaced by Dewayne Haskins. Iowa blew Ohio St out big time.


This didn’t happen. No other Ohio state qb threw a pass in this game. 0/3.

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In 2008-2010, Tyrod Taylor was benched multiple times in games.


Well, it didn’t happen in 2009 or 2010, and they used a 2 qb system in 2008. 0/4.

We might be here all off season before you can find a legit example……
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:59 pm to
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In 2018, Bryant was benched for Trevor Lawrence in the 4th game of the year. Bryant ended up transferring out. You may remember Lawrence goes on to win the NC.



Unlike bama, Clemson used a 2 qb system, and let the winner become the starter, which puts this example on a different list. 0/1.

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In 2015, Cardale Jones finished 2014 as the starter for Ohio St winning the National Championship. He was benched for JT Barrett against Northern Illinois after throwing 2 interceptions. Ohio St squeaked out a win thanks to their defense.



The backup was a proven heisman contender, which means he was more proven than cardale, so this also belongs on a different list. 0/2.

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Then in 2017, JT Barrett was benched against Iowa after throwing a bunch of Interceptions, replaced by Dewayne Haskins. Iowa blew Ohio St out big time.



This didn’t happen. No other Ohio state qb threw a pass in this game. 0/3.

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In 2008-2010, Tyrod Taylor was benched multiple times in games.



Well, it didn’t happen in 2009 or 2010, and they used a 2 qb system in 2008. 0/4.

We might be here all off season before you can find a legit example……




You might actually be even more sleazy than SidewalkTiger.

Clemson did not have a 2 QB system. Bryant started the entire year before and Lawrence was a freshman.

JT Barrett was not a proven heisman winner, and I'm almost certain he did not finish the game against Iowa.

Tyrod Taylor was the starter and was only replaced when he was injured or had a bad game. Like when he was benched after committing 5 turn overs in the 1st half against Duke. Does that sound like a 2 QB system? Because it's not.





This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 8:02 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:34 pm to
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your claim is that you are going to win the game instead of losing the game as you did in the NCG, what part of that doesn't indicate easier?


Does being pushed towards something make getting to it easier? I think so. I bet you do too.

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QBs that were benched in garbage time.


We aren’t discussing garbage time .

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Hell LSU lost 21-0 against Alabama in the 2012 BCS. Jordan Jefferson played the entire game getting an entire 53 yards of passing. And not only did he have a decent backup, that backup played multiple games for them that season in Jarrett Lee. do


Miles didn’t have the balls to make the change.
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