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re: Freeze by year at OM and the WTF losses each year
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:27 am to deltaland
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:27 am to deltaland
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Since it was due to Freeze’s own actions and not some rogue booster that caused the wins to be vacated, he cannot get credit for the wins on the field.
I don’t consider Freeze blameless, but wasn’t most of it Booster related that started in 2010.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:30 am to lsufball19
quote:A lot of those playmakers we had were true freshmen. Kelly tore his ACL and missed the last 3-4 games and we had to start a true freshman at QB. DK was also knocked out for the year in the very first game against Florida State, so we didn’t have him.
That team had Chad Kelly, Akeem Judd, Van Jefferson, Evan Ingram, AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, DaMarkus Lodge, etc. There was zero excuse to go 5-7 (2-6 SEC) with that team
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:30 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Literally half the team was injured and TCU was pissed due to being kept out of the playoff
Ole Miss had some injuries, but most of those were guys who had been out for awhile. There's really no way to excuse away a 42-3 loss.
Here is the injury report before that game ( Peach Bowl Injury Report), and it lists injured players got hurt. Ole Miss had 9 players out, most of them having been hurt for half the season or more. Only 3 guys on there who missed the Peach Bowl had gotten hurt after October, Vince Sanders, Laquon Treadwell, and Aaron Morris.
Ole Miss beat #4 State by 2 touchdowns with 530 yards of offense missing the same players they were in the Peach Bowl. in the Peach Bowl, "Bad Bo" Wallace just came out as he would from time to time, and the defense played its worst game of the season. It happens
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:45 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:31 am to Henry Jones Jr
The offense was never the problem in 2016.
That defense was all-time bad.
That defense was all-time bad.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:32 am to Tornado Alley
quote:Longo’s abysmal red zone offense cost is a few times too. But yeah, the defense was horrendous
The offense was never the problem in 2016. That defense was all-time bad.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:36 am to lsufball19
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Ole Miss had some injuries, but most of those were guys who had been out for awhile. There's really no way to excuse away a 42-3 loss.
Here is the injury report before that game, and it lists the starting date injured players had been out. Ole Miss had 9 players out, most of them having been hurt for half the season or more. Only 3 guys on there who missed the Peach Bowl had gotten hurt after October, Vince Sanders, Laquon Treadwell, and Aaron Morris.
Ole Miss beat #4 State by 2 touchdowns with 530 yards of offense missing the same players they were in the Peach Bowl. in the Peach Bowl, "Bad Bo" Wallace just came out as he would from time to time, and the defense played its worst game of the season. It happens
A friend of mine from Atlanta swears on all things holy he saw Bo Wallace at a bar in Buckhead the night before the game and Bo was fricked up. I kind of believe it by the way he played.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:38 am to Tornado Alley
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A friend of mine from Atlanta swears on all things holy he saw Bo Wallace at a bar in Buckhead the night before the game and Bo was fricked up. I kind of believe it by the way he played.
Wasn't that the weekend RN or someone in his posse was jumping out of a hotel window?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:38 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Kelly tore his ACL and missed the last 3-4 games and we had to start a true freshman at QB.
Kelly started the first 9 games. He went 4-5, with wins over Wofford, GA Southern, Memphis, and Georgia. Shea Patterson actually went down and beat #10 Texas A&M on the road.
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A lot of those playmakers we had were true freshme
Van Jefferson was a sophomore
Evan Ingram was a senior
AJ Brown was a freshman (but still very good)
Akeem Judd was a 5th year senior
DaMarkus Lodge was a sophomore
Ole Miss had plenty enough talent on that team to avoid getting blown out by Derek Mason and a 5-7 State team. And if they didn't, that's not exactly an endorsement of Hugh Freeze. That was his 5th year in Oxford. That roster and depth chart were all on him at that point
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:40 am to Tornado Alley
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A friend of mine from Atlanta swears on all things holy he saw Bo Wallace at a bar in Buckhead the night before the game and Bo was fricked up. I kind of believe it by the way he played.
Sounds like the stories of out players allegedly being at the casinos drunk prior to the 2011 national title game. I wanna say I believe it too for obvious reasons
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:41 am to HottyToddy7
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2016 5-7 -lost to Vandy 38-17 -lost to State 55-20
That loss to Jimbo’s FSU was pretty wtf.
FSU was not that good that year, yet Freeze blew a big lead to them.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:41 am to lsufball19
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Ole Miss had plenty enough talent on that team to avoid getting blown out by Derek Mason and a 5-7 State team. And if they didn't, that's not exactly an endorsement of Hugh Freeze. That was his 5th year in Oxford. That roster and depth chart were all on him at that point
His classes were very top heavy and the defensive recruiting fell off the map after 2015. He then started hiring only his buddies on his staffs that weren't anywhere close to being qualified to coach in the SEC. The whole thing was imploding. If he didn't fired for other stuff, he would have gotten fired for his program being in the crapper after 2017.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:42 am to lsufball19
Don't forget Jordan Wilkins, who has had a nice career in the NFL.
You realize you're arguing with the biggest Freeze supporter on the planet, right? In HJJ's eyes, Freeze is incapable of wrongdoing.
You realize you're arguing with the biggest Freeze supporter on the planet, right? In HJJ's eyes, Freeze is incapable of wrongdoing.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:43 am to Tornado Alley
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That defense was all-time bad.
Yes it was. That Fournette game wasn't anything but him taking pitches and running untouched for 75+ yards multiple times. The holes he was running through were 4 people wide, and looking at the defensive alignment it's like they not only watched zero film on Les Miles (which wouldn't take long lol) but like they didn't even pay attention to the formation they were defending during the game.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:43 am to lsufball19
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Sounds like the stories of out players allegedly being at the casinos drunk prior to the 2011 national title game. I wanna say I believe it too for obvious reasons
This is not just any old friend. This is one of my best buddies. He called me from the bar and left a voicemail about drinking with Bo. I wish I still had it.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:44 am to Tornado Alley
Alabama thanks y'all again for the National Championship in 2015. 
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:45 am to lsufball19
The 2016 defense foreshadowed what the Rebs were to be the next few years. Forget arm tackles, our guys weren't on the correct side of the field.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:45 am to Toroballistic
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Alabama thanks y'all again for the National Championship in 2015.
u welcome MFer
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:45 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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You are aware that Moo St had to vacate all wins from the 2018 season, right?
There is a reason we fired Moorhead
Well actually numerous reasons
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:46 am to Henry Jones Jr
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lost @Memphis 37-24
The only one I really agree with. Inexcusable
There was no shame in losing to that Memphis team. Like it or not, they were very good.
Melt over it all you want.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:46 am to Tornado Alley
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This is not just any old friend. This is one of my best buddies. He called me from the bar and left a voicemail about drinking with Bo. I wish I still had it.
Oh I don't doubt it at all
I think this happens more than any of us know TBH. Bowl games are just vacations for a lot of those players and they treat them as such.
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