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re: FREE UAB

Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:42 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:42 am to
I wish that was happening. But it isn't. Birmingham isn't supporting the program. The city buys tickets to give away to people for free and still people don't come. It's pathetic how little support the citizens of Birmingham give to the program.

ETA: They barely hit 30,000 fans in the seats the week before the Iron Bowl with a ranked Marshall visiting. Bama and Auburn weren't playing good matchups. This is a perfect example of how little support UAB football gets from the citizens of Birmingham.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:47 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30868 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:43 am to
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The point is that the state and the city of Birmingham would be better off if it was not structured such that it is "Bama's money". The public good is being undermined because of bullshite politics and power struggles. Why should the UA BOT be permitted to control a separate university with divergent interests? UAB isn't some satellite campus. It has 19,000 students, is the largest employer in the state, has higher revenues than the rest of the UA system combine. Why should the UA BOT be able to dictate what it does? UAB should be about looking out for UAB and Birmingham. Does anyone think that an independent UAB BOT would have made this decision?
Why don't you check a little history on the matter and get back to us. You may be surprised.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53563 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:43 am to
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As has been intimated numerous time, you are a LIAR...if you dispute this, then present links to substantiate your claim. If you don't, then...you're a liar....plain and simple


Links will be provided at a later date when the truth comes out. Did you watch the game day special on it? Donors saying they weren't even asked or talked to be uab.

Dumb to think Bot didn't want uab football to go away.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62337 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:44 am to
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Links will be provided at a later date when the truth comes out.


Actually, the report presented for the on campus stadium a few years back is already available to the public. They didn't have even half the funding.
Posted by APIEE
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:44 am to
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How is UAB football helping the public good?

For that matter, how is UA football?

What a dumb argument.


Is this serious? Are you saying that UA football does nothing for the local economy? That it doesn't draw more students to UA and increase the visibility of UA? That it doesn't engage alumni and make them more likely to donate to both athletic and academic programs? That students that attend college in Alabama aren't way more likely to remain in that state?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53563 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:44 am to
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wish that was happening. But it isn't. Birmingham isn't supporting the program. The city buys tickets to give away to people for free and still people don't come.


So they are trying to support the program.

Hard to get people to come to a shite stadium in a terrible part of town. Not to mention the facilities are the same as they were in 1990s.

If Alabama state can build a small stadium in Montgomery, then uab sure as hell could have
Posted by Mac5500
Auburn
Member since Jul 2013
2499 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:46 am to
It would help if the games weren't in a shitty part of town that people would just want to get in and out of as quickly as possible. Part of the "gameday experience" is tailgating and hanging out. People, in general I know you're an exception, do not feel safe doing that around UAB's stadium. If people could do that, I have no doubt more people would attend games. I know I would.
Posted by APIEE
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:47 am to
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coachcrisp


Enlighten me
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62337 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:48 am to
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Is this serious? Are you saying that UA football does nothing for the local economy? That it doesn't draw more students to UA and increase the visibility of UA? That it doesn't engage alumni and make them more likely to donate to both athletic and academic programs? That students that attend college in Alabama aren't way more likely to remain in that state?


Nope. I didn't say any of that, but no one goes to UAB for any of these things and UAB football doesn't stimulate Birmingham's economy.

ETA: If it did, that area around Legion Field wouldn't be as bad as you all claim it is.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:50 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73248 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:49 am to
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is the largest employer in the state


Why does this continue to be rehashed as a talking point?

LINK


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has higher revenues than the rest of the UA system combine


This is likely true due to the impact of the medical field, but UA has an endowment nearly twice the size of UAB.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62337 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:51 am to
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It would help if the games weren't in a shitty part of town that people would just want to get in and out of as quickly as possible. Part of the "gameday experience" is tailgating and hanging out. People, in general I know you're an exception, do not feel safe doing that around UAB's stadium. If people could do that, I have no doubt more people would attend games. I know I would.


I had a great time tailgating at a Blazer game this season. Lots of vendors set up, bouncy houses for the youngins, they even provide free food for students and shuttle them to the games.
Posted by Mac5500
Auburn
Member since Jul 2013
2499 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:52 am to
Your link was posted Friday, April 22, 2011
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62337 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:53 am to
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Why does this continue to be rehashed as a talking point?

LINK


Wow. It's really sad for our state that all of the top 5 are government entities.
Posted by APIEE
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:55 am to
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imjustafatkid


You indicated that it was silly to state the UAB football (or UA football) was for the public good/interest. Do you not think that all of those results that were listed are not accruing to the public's benefit?

I don't see how UAB football doesn't stimulate the Bham's economy. Average over 20,000 people a game. Those people spend money. Stay in hotels. etc. etc. In any case, that is only a part of it. The question is whether UAB and Birmingham receive more value from the program than the amount that they spend on it. In terms of visibility, student recruitment, alumni engagement, economic impact, and conference membership for other programs it seems like a no brainer. There is a reason why all these other schools have football programs that are subsidized at much much higher levels than UAB.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30868 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:56 am to
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Links will be provided at a later date when the truth comes out. Did you watch the game day special on it? Donors saying they weren't even asked or talked to be uab. Dumb to think Bot didn't want uab football to go away.
How many years has this been an issue? How many articles and tv newscasts have been made about this very problem? So now they're saying that nobody knew anything about it. Man, this is a joke and it's grown old and stale just talking about it. Finally, I think the BoT would be dumb to NOT want this money pit to go away.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53563 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:58 am to
It didn't stimulate the economy.

Fans don't use hotels.
Fans don't eat locally.
Fans don't buy things.

They all drive in. Watch the game with their free tickets. Then they drive directly home. Some are even paid by Birmingham to attend so the city loses money.

Posted by Mac5500
Auburn
Member since Jul 2013
2499 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:59 am to
And they do this because they don't want to stay in the vicinity of the stadium.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73248 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:59 am to
I stand corrected if that number has changed in three years.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:01 pm to
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ETA: They barely hit 30,000 fans in the seats the week before the Iron Bowl with a ranked Marshall visiting. Bama and Auburn weren't playing good matchups. This is a perfect example of how little support UAB football gets from the citizens of Birmingham.


Lol they're top 5 in their conference in attendance. Their not in the SEC and shouldn't expect 70,000 to come to a game. They also had 30,000 for two other games this year.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:01 pm to
LINK

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