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re: Ford Foundation Threatens to Pull $20 Million from Ole Miss

Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32261 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:51 pm to
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yes actually. That was my point
Five of the 12 board members have ties to either UM or UMMC. The vote was 9-3.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:54 pm to
So you're saying that the majority of the members have zero ties to them. That's my point.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32261 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:05 pm to
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So you're saying that the majority of the members have zero ties to them. That's my point.
Do you know how anything works? We are not talking SECrant people here. The USM/MSU/
Valley/JSU people are not going to vote based on school loyalties on something this big. These people are appointed for 12 year terms (which is too long in my opinion). Dan knew the rules when he took the job. He knew the rules when was VC at UMC. IHL doesn't rubber stamp everything that comes their way - but, it's not based on school loyalties. To think otherwise is just foolish.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32261 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:17 pm to
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We need to have our own Board of Trustees.
Even if you did, I would bet a ton of money that they all would not be UM alums. Not the way it works. You are a public university. Who would appoint said BOT?
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:19 pm to
I didn't say it was. I didn't even say I disagree with their decision. I'm not even saying that the IHL doesn't have it's own useful place in overseeing the state's schools. Approving real estate purchases, audits, financial oversight, etc.. are all fine by me.

I just think it's ignorant to have non ole miss people deciding what's best for the university when it comes to naming the Chancellor. That'd be like if congress had the right to elect a governor of their choosing when one governor's term was up.

I get it's the law/rules/policy/whatever but I just think it's busted.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:20 pm to
We need to find a way to go private. Gets rid of our IHL issue and the Ayers bullshite.

Yes I realize this won't ever happen
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32261 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:37 pm to
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We need to find a way to go private. Gets rid of our IHL issue and the Ayers bull shite.

Even you trust fund babes couldn't afford the support you would give up for both OM and UMMC. Just goofy to even say it.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:43 pm to
You can't read italics. Noted.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32261 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:51 pm to
Just goofy to even say it. NOTED!
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:45 pm to
He was bad fit for Qle Miss. after his opening remark people were going WTF?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:45 pm to
He was bad fit for Qle Miss. after his opening remark people were going WTF?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108577 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:11 pm to
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God I hate the IHL.



Seriously, when people here laugh about our laughably high admissions rates and high drop out rates, blame this institution right here. They want anyone with a pulse to be accepted and inevitably flunk out. It's ridiculous. Us, Southern, and State need to come together to take down these bastards since they have no intentions of us being an institution of higher learning if they can help it.

And Phil Bryant can frick off. He hasn't stepped foot in an Ole Miss classroom.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:58 pm to
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I posted something on a message board that I believed true at the time of posting that turned out to not be true. 


What was it?
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4455 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:39 am to
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Then don't assert that the Ford Foundation is "serious" if you do not know that to be true.

I think anyone with half a brain could read the article and come away with "they are serious" or it wouldn't have made news. Whether they go through with it may or may not happen but it sounds serious enough. If you step outside the box from defending your team and try to look at it with a nonbiased view you would come away with the same perception.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:54 am to
Of course Ole Miss wants its own board, but given the limits on state funding, it does make some sense to coordinate the universities. And Ole Miss belongs to the people of Mississippi, even non-alums. Taxpayers provide support to the instiution and have an interest, hopefully for the best interest, of an important educational institution that affects all Mississippians.

It might make sense for day to day governance and operations to be under the oversight of a board for Ole Miss and similarly for the other two major schools, but with one "super" board that coordinates on major issues like state funding and programs.

It probably would also be best for UMMC to be independent of the Oxford campus and governed separately. They function pretty separately now as it is.

Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:56 am to
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Seriously, when people here laugh about our laughably high admissions rates and high drop out rates, blame this institution right here. They want anyone with a pulse to be accepted and inevitably flunk out. It's ridiculous. Us, Southern, and State need to come together to take down these bastards since they have no intentions of us being an institution of higher learning if they can help it.


Agree.

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And Phil Bryant can frick off. He hasn't stepped foot in an Ole Miss classroom.



REALLY, REALLY agree.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29303 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:05 pm to
I don't think any donor base should hold the university hostage, but it is what it is.

Ole Miss seems to be attracting better quality students, and they're throwing up new facilities left and right. I've always like colonel reb, but something had to give on that end. It was inevitable.

I don't know much about UMCC's situation, but it sounds like he handled it as well as possible. From an outsider letting him go seems a bit irrational and uncalled for.

The "elephant in the room" is that there wouldn't be so much outcry if he wasn't fresh out of chemo
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29303 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:19 pm to
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We need to find a way to go private. Gets rid of our IHL issue and the Ayers bullshite.

Yes I realize this won't ever happen




This is honestly something that LSU has at least put on the table, because Jindal's cuts on higher education would send LSU back to 90's prestige
Posted by YouDontKnowBro
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:56 pm to
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We need to find a way to go private. Gets rid of our IHL issue and the Ayers bull shite.
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Even you trust fund babes couldn't afford the support you would give up for both OM and UMMC.


Actually a very small portion of the Ole Miss budget is provided by the state (I think less than 20%). If Ole Miss went private it could make up for the lost revenue by raising tuition. Tuition is so low right now you could probably quadruple it and it would still be affordable.

In my opinion, giving up state funding to cut ties with a backwards state that makes boneheaded decision after boneheaded decision in regards to education is worth it. Getting a fricking 16 on your ACT should cause you to feel like the moron you are and not reward you with higher education you are unqualified to comprehend.

Also, IHL has been fricking Delta State for years.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32261 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 4:01 pm to
Good idea. We should start the appraisal process right now on the physical plant and all properties and y'all buy the dang thing. Excellent idea. Y'all giving up the medical center? They get a $200,000 every year from the state. Oh, we (the state) built all of those buildings, too.
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