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Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:00 am to tigerskin
Every time one of these lists come out they are all over the board. One publication has this but this one has that. I don't think they know.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:01 am to Mr Shickadance
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Big 5
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6. LSU
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Mr Shickadance
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LSU fan
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:28 am to BamaBo7
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We just here to win championships.. no one gives a shite about the quiz bowl. Lol
Speak for your self! There is no reason why Bama fans should care only about sports. WE can excel at academics too.
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:01 am to InGAButLoveBama
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For the last several years, UA has dropped a bit in the USNWR rankings despite increasingly attracting more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than Vandy, UF, UGA, AU, and all other SEC schools except Texas A and M.
Wait, you’re saying that Bama gets more students with higher ACT scores than Vandy, UF, and UGA? Where are those stats? Why do lots of Atlanta kids apply to UGA, get rejected, go to Bama or Auburn their freshman year, then transfer to UGA. I know many, many first-hand cases of this?
You might want to take a look here: LINK
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 10:08 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:21 am to Cheese Grits
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Fine to talk about academics anytime. Education should always be a good thing.
That was meant as a shot at the use of offseason topics on football eve. And let’s be serious, these posts are always about self-aggrandizement rather than an actual interest in academics.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:19 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Unless they've changed their metrics they don't adjust for cost of living. They probably have a recent grad fresh out of Florida that can't grasp this concept.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 4:13 pm to yatesdog38
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"For the last several years, UA has dropped a bit in the USNWR rankings despite increasingly attracting more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than Vandy, UF, UGA, AU, and all other SEC schools except Texas A and M.
Wait, you’re saying that Bama gets more students with higher ACT scores than Vandy, UF, and UGA? Where are those stats? Why do lots of Atlanta kids apply to UGA, get rejected, go to Bama or Auburn their freshman year, then transfer to UGA. I know many, many first-hand cases of this?
You might want to take a look here: LINK /"
Yes, I stand by the fact that UA has admitted more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than any other SEC school, aside from A&M (huge freshman classes. largest in SEC), for several years now! How do I know this to be true?
First, look at the middle ACT range percentile (middle 50%) for each school. To find that, go to LINK When you search for a school, click on "Applying" on the left side of the page. Then you will see the school's middle (middle 50%) ACT range. UA has a very wide middle range. Then look at the size of UA's last freshman class (Fall 2017, or even the five or so years before that). If 25% of both UA and UGA freshman have an ACT of 33 or higher, to know which school has the larger number of such students, simply compare the size of each school's freshman class. UA has had a significantly larger freshman class than UGA for about a decade now. You can see this at the CollegeBoard site as well by comparing the two schools.
Notice I said nothing about average. I said number of top students. Yes, UGA has a higher avg ACT, but only because UA has far more of the lower quality students, even as it has more (in actual number) of the top students.
UGA folks need to check their arrogance. Yes, you have fewer of the lower quality students, but UA has more of the top quality students. Deal with it!
By the way, the link you shared is outdated. UA's new middle range is 23-32, not 21-31. While UA's top 25 percentile is even higher than that of Texas A&M, the latter's freshman class is so enormous that there is no doubt that it (A&M) has the largest number of top students.
LINK
"For the last several years, UA has dropped a bit in the USNWR rankings despite increasingly attracting more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than Vandy, UF, UGA, AU, and all other SEC schools except Texas A and M.
Wait, you’re saying that Bama gets more students with higher ACT scores than Vandy, UF, and UGA? Where are those stats? Why do lots of Atlanta kids apply to UGA, get rejected, go to Bama or Auburn their freshman year, then transfer to UGA. I know many, many first-hand cases of this?
You might want to take a look here: LINK /"
Yes, I stand by the fact that UA has admitted more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than any other SEC school, aside from A&M (huge freshman classes. largest in SEC), for several years now! How do I know this to be true?
First, look at the middle ACT range percentile (middle 50%) for each school. To find that, go to LINK When you search for a school, click on "Applying" on the left side of the page. Then you will see the school's middle (middle 50%) ACT range. UA has a very wide middle range. Then look at the size of UA's last freshman class (Fall 2017, or even the five or so years before that). If 25% of both UA and UGA freshman have an ACT of 33 or higher, to know which school has the larger number of such students, simply compare the size of each school's freshman class. UA has had a significantly larger freshman class than UGA for about a decade now. You can see this at the CollegeBoard site as well by comparing the two schools.
Notice I said nothing about average. I said number of top students. Yes, UGA has a higher avg ACT, but only because UA has far more of the lower quality students, even as it has more (in actual number) of the top students.
UGA folks need to check their arrogance. Yes, you have fewer of the lower quality students, but UA has more of the top quality students. Deal with it!
By the way, the link you shared is outdated. UA's new middle range is 23-32, not 21-31. While UA's top 25 percentile is even higher than that of Texas A&M, the latter's freshman class is so enormous that there is no doubt that it (A&M) has the largest number of top students.
LINK
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 5:04 pm to tattoo
quote:That is certainly not the case in a lot of industries.
We have numerous engineering/cs grads mostly from Alabama, Auburn several from MSU. No one makes a distinction when hiring. Even a Georgia Tech grad doesn't have a leg up. Frankly, don't care if you are from Harvard. Many gov't entities care but most businesses do not. In fact, a doctorate doesn't help here (large corp). Grades don't matter a lot, just so they are decent. Occasionally MBAs help a little. The primary issues are, "what can you do, what kind of co-worker are you, what kind of worker".
Posted on 8/30/18 at 5:08 pm to ibldprplgld
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What metrics are they basing this off of exactly?
The metric that states that just because of the recent success of the football program, does not mean that the state of Alabama and its universities are suddenly the shite.
That metric.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 6:52 pm to Amadeo
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quote: What metrics are they basing this off of exactly? The metric that states that just because of the recent success of the football program, does not mean that the state of Alabama and its universities are suddenly the shite. That metric.
Duh. However, being the national champion so often does seem to attract a lot of top students to UA. Or at least it helps increase UA's exposure.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:52 am to InGAButLoveBama
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"For the last several years, UA has dropped a bit in the USNWR rankings despite increasingly attracting more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than Vandy, UF, UGA, AU, and all other SEC schools except Texas A and M.
Wait, you’re saying that Bama gets more students with higher ACT scores than Vandy, UF, and UGA? Where are those stats? Why do lots of Atlanta kids apply to UGA, get rejected, go to Bama or Auburn their freshman year, then transfer to UGA. I know many, many first-hand cases of this?
You might want to take a look here: LINK /"
Yes, I stand by the fact that UA has admitted more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than any other SEC school, aside from A&M (huge freshman classes. largest in SEC), for several years now! How do I know this to be true?
First, look at the middle ACT range percentile (middle 50%) for each school. To find that, go to LINK /. When you search for a school, click on "Applying" on the left side of the page. Then you will see the school's middle (middle 50%) ACT range. UA has a very wide middle range. Then look at the size of UA's last freshman class (Fall 2017, or even the five or so years before that). If 25% of both UA and UGA freshman have an ACT of 33 or higher, to know which school has the larger number of such students, simply compare the size of each school's freshman class. UA has had a significantly larger freshman class than UGA for about a decade now. You can see this at the CollegeBoard site as well by comparing the two schools.
Notice I said nothing about average. I said number of top students. Yes, UGA has a higher avg ACT, but only because UA has far more of the lower quality students, even as it has more (in actual number) of the top students.
UGA folks need to check their arrogance. Yes, you have fewer of the lower quality students, but UA has more of the top quality students. Deal with it!
By the way, the link you shared is outdated. UA's new middle range is 23-32, not 21-31. While UA's top 25 percentile is even higher than that of Texas A&M, the latter's freshman class is so enormous that there is no doubt that it (A&M) has the largest number of top students.
LINK
Lies/Damn Lies/Statistics.
Dude, there’s no way that AlaDamnBama is a better academic institution than Vandy, UGA, or UF.
You can pick it be sector and say “Bama has more Hispanics with higher SAT scores than any school in the SEC”. And you may be right. But I can do the same.
UGA draws heavily from the greater Atlanta area, which draws from transplants from all over the US and many foreign countries. Because of the HOPE Scholarship, these people want their kids to stay in state. So the quality of student, from top to bottom, has greatly increased since Hope’s inception.
I know first hand of students with 3.8-4.0 GPAs who were rejected by UGA and accepted to Bama. Some of these were kids of UGA alum who were not happy about it. Several went to Bama or Auburn their freshmen year, then transferred to UGA. I know these kids. These are facts, not statistics.
Anyone who tries to compare Bama favorably to Vandy, UGA or UF, academically, is just kidding himself. Look at every list of rankings and you’ll see what the experts say.
You have a good football program. I’ll give you that. But academically, Bama is second tier.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:47 am to beatbammer
false.
#fatcsaregoodtoknow
#fatcsaregoodtoknow
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:53 am to Cobb Dawg
Alabama is currently built on accepting a very high proportion of out of state students. So they're far more discriminating on in-state vs out of state.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:06 am to Cobb Dawg
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Wait, you’re saying that Bama gets more students with higher ACT scores than Vandy, UF, and UGA? Where are those stats? Why do lots of Atlanta kids apply to UGA, get rejected, go to Bama or Auburn their freshman year, then transfer to UGA. I know many, many first-hand cases of this?
The second part of this statement has absolutely nothing to do with the first part.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 10:07 am to Yellerhammer5
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quote: quote: "For the last several years, UA has dropped a bit in the USNWR rankings despite increasingly attracting more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than Vandy, UF, UGA, AU, and all other SEC schools except Texas A and M.
Wait, you’re saying that Bama gets more students with higher ACT scores than Vandy, UF, and UGA? Where are those stats? Why do lots of Atlanta kids apply to UGA, get rejected, go to Bama or Auburn their freshman year, then transfer to UGA. I know many, many first-hand cases of this? You might want to take a look here: LINK /"
Yes, I stand by the fact that UA has admitted more top students (ACT of 33 or higher) than any other SEC school, aside from A&M (huge freshman classes. largest in SEC), for several years now! How do I know this to be true?
First, look at the middle ACT range percentile (middle 50%) for each school. To find that, go to LINK /. When you search for a school, click on "Applying" on the left side of the page. Then you will see the school's middle (middle 50%) ACT range. UA has a very wide middle range. Then look at the size of UA's last freshman class (Fall 2017, or even the five or so years before that). If 25% of both UA and UGA freshman have an ACT of 33 or higher, to know which school has the larger number of such students, simply compare the size of each school's freshman class. UA has had a significantly larger freshman class than UGA for about a decade now. You can see this at the CollegeBoard site as well by comparing the two schools.
Notice I said nothing about average. I said number of top students. Yes, UGA has a higher avg ACT, but only because UA has far more of the lower quality students, even as it has more (in actual number) of the top students. UGA folks need to check their arrogance. Yes, you have fewer of the lower quality students, but UA has more of the top quality students. Deal with it! By the way, the link you shared is outdated. UA's new middle range is 23-32, not 21-31. While UA's top 25 percentile is even higher than that of Texas A&M, the latter's freshman class is so enormous that there is no doubt that it (A&M) has the largest number of top students. LINK
Lies/Damn Lies/Statistics. Dude, there’s no way that AlaDamnBama is a better academic institution than Vandy, UGA, or UF. You can pick it be sector and say “Bama has more Hispanics with higher SAT scores than any school in the SEC”. And you may be right. But I can do the same. UGA draws heavily from the greater Atlanta area, which draws from transplants from all over the US and many foreign countries. Because of the HOPE Scholarship, these people want their kids to stay in state. So the quality of student, from top to bottom, has greatly increased since Hope’s inception. I know first hand of students with 3.8-4.0 GPAs who were rejected by UGA and accepted to Bama. Some of these were kids of UGA alum who were not happy about it. Several went to Bama or Auburn their freshmen year, then transferred to UGA. I know these kids. These are facts, not statistics. Anyone who tries to compare Bama favorably to Vandy, UGA or UF, academically, is just kidding himself. Look at every list of rankings and you’ll see what the experts say. You have a good football program. I’ll give you that. But academically, Bama is second tier
NO Lies, Just Facts Bulldawg
You keep bringing up a red herring. I never claimed that UA is more elite than Vandy or other schools. I simply stated a fact: Aside from Texas A&M, UA enrolls more top freshman students (ACT of 33 or higher) than any other school in the SEC.
I also dispute your claim that UA is second tier. If that was true, why would so many more top students enroll at UA rather than UGA? Sure, the scholarships offered by UA to top students are great, but I doubt top students would go to UA if it was truly second tier. UA's new engineering and science facilities are on par with or superior to UGA's and other SEC schools. Come back with facts, not red herrings.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/31/18 at 10:14 am to InGAButLoveBama
They count all the singlewides in a state to make the list. The Mississippi schools are so under funded and the state itself has a very low IQ. That's why they build ponds by their singlewides....so they can catch and sell catfish.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 10:19 am to reel_gator8
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They count all the singlewides in a state to make the list. The Mississippi schools are so under funded and the state itself has a very low IQ. That's why they build ponds by their singlewides....so they can catch and sell catfish
In fairness to Mississippi, the low avg IQ is due to the very high percentage of African Americans there. On avg., AA IQ is one standard deviation below that of Whites. And even lower income Whites have a higher AVERAGE SAT than upper income Blacks. There are different and conflicting theories (genetics vs environment) to explain the racial disparity in IQ. Not here to explain the disparity, but it is real and helps to explain the lower avg IQ for not just Mississippi, but other high AA population Southern states. LINK for the claim about upper income Blacks having a lower avg SAT than lower income Whites
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/31/18 at 10:22 am to InGAButLoveBama
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Alabama is currently built on accepting a very high proportion of out of state students. So they're far more discriminating on in-state vs out of state.
Not completely true. UA actually likely holds out of state students to a higher standard. But yes, it has wanted to increase OOS enrollment. Great way to boost revenue. But you don't have to hold in state residents to a higher standard to get more oos students.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 10:25 am to tigerskin
Gonna have to disagree with this list, based on the LSU grads I've met 
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