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re: Florida is now the SEC east favorite
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:03 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:03 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Georgia has a two year maximum before they turn into "Man, this guy just can't get it done." and are looking for a real HC
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:05 pm to 3morereps
If UF can close out of off season distractions and Mullen can get them focused, I think they'll have a good season. I'm not sure they'll win the East.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:15 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Thank God they went the coordinator route -- and a defensive coordinator at that.
Seems to be going pretty well so far.
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If Georgia doesn't at least make the Playoff with the arsenal they have, people will start to know something is up.
There are exactly two programs that have had more playoff success than Georgia since Smart has been here.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:35 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Seems to be going pretty well so far.
How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo? Or really any coach out there with a proven track record?
The last two years were practically served up on a silver platter and Kirby choked them both away.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:43 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo?
First off, there is basically zero chance Dabo would have left Clemson for Georgia after 2015, so this premise is absurd.
Second, I have zero idea how it would have turned out with any different proven coach. Our roster the last two years would have been markedly different (worse in all likelihood, especially 2018). The scheme and scheme transition from Richt would have been completely different.
Have mistakes been made? Sure, but the last two seasons have been successful on the whole, and we’re far more competitive nationally than we were from 2013-2016.
I’ll say this for Kirby. His and Pittman’s ability to recruit an OL reversed the single biggest issue of the Richt regime faster than I thought was possible.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:43 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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let's say they went after Dabo?
Do you honestly believe Dabo would have left Clemson for UGA? That's insane. What's the upside to that?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:47 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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The last two years were practically served up on a silver platter and Kirby choked them both away.
Also, this is bullshite. In no way is a national title ever served up on a silver platter. It’s fricking hard to beat teams as good as Alabama and Clemson.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo? Or really any coach out there with a proven track record?
The last two years were practically served up on a silver platter and Kirby choked them both away.
First conference title:
Swinney - 3rd yr
Smart - 2nd yr
National Title Game appearance:
Swinney - 7th yr
Smart - 2nd yr
National Title Game Win:
Swinney - 8th year
Smart - ???
Kirb's looks to be ahead of schedule to me.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Georgia has a two year maximum before they turn into "Man, this guy just can't get it done." and are looking for a real HC.
No one thought that about richt until his 8th year, and he was undone by unique factors.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:33 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo? Or really any coach out there with a proven track record?
The last two years were practically served up on a silver platter and Kirby choked them both away.
For a poster with frequent COMICALLY terrible takes, this post might take the fricking cake...
Like... You're serious here and this isn't meant to be sarcasm?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:34 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo?
What had dabo done at the time of the firing of richt?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:39 pm to djsdawg
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What had dabo done at the time of the firing of richt?
Swinney completed his best season as Clemson's head coach in 2015, leading the Tigers to a 14-1 record with an ACC championship and an appearance in the national championship game.
Swinney was named Associated Press Coach of Year, Walter Camp Coach of the Year, Home Depot Coach of the Year, and the Paul "Bear" Bryant Award.
I mean, it was literally the 2015 season when Richt was fired and he had one of the best runs of all time with a team that frequently underachieves at recruiting.
What Dogs fans will do to pretend like UGA got the best coach available at the time.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:43 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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What Dogs fans will do to pretend like UGA got the best coach available at the time.
Dabo was not available by any reasonable definition.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:44 pm to fibonaccisquared
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For a poster with frequent COMICALLY terrible takes, this post might take the fricking cake...
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How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo? Or really any coach out there with a proven track record?
Going after a coach with a proven track record instead of a coordinator is a comically terrible cake?
I can see why 4th and 11 happened now, a man who takes after his retarded fans.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:51 pm to FlatwoodsForester
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Do you honestly believe Dabo would have left Clemson for UGA? That's insane. What's the upside to that?
Money, prestige, a program that runs itself, easier recruiting, SEC Ties. I mean right off the top of my head. UGA is an infinitely better institution than Clemson.
shite, Florida outrecruited Clemson last year and this was after a crushing win over one of the greatest dynasty teams of all time.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:55 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Money, prestige, a program that runs itself, easier recruiting, SEC Ties. I mean right off the top of my head. UGA is an infinitely better institution than Clemson.
I love UGA, but it is not infinitely better. They have plenty of money, he had Watson and a title contender coming back, great location, minimal real competition in-conference, and he was largely responsible for building it. Leaving right before the ultimate payoff would have been insane.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Swinney completed his best season as Clemson's head coach in 2015, leading the Tigers to a 14-1 record with an ACC championship and an appearance in the national championship game.
So a national championship game loss, which is exactly what Kirby has accomplished. The difference is this came in year 7. He even got his arse kicked by tired Mark Richt in year 6. The same richt uga team that lost to Carolina and got smashed by Muschamp’s 2014 Florida team.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:05 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I love UGA, but it is not infinitely better.
I hate Georgia. 2015 Georgia job is astonishingly better than about 95% of the country. Richt mailing it in managed to have top ten classes recruiting.
Dabo didn't start raking in cash until that year specifically, and I guarantee you if UGA pursued him he would have left at that time.
There's no reason to undersell Georgia in order to make up excuses as to why they went after a coordinator instead of an extremely hot up and coming coach. Of course, hindsight and all that.
You guys are making arguments about 2018 Dabo instead of 2015 Dabo. Alabama fans likewise thought that he would leave Clemson for Alabama until this year.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:11 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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2015 Georgia job is astonishingly better than about 95% of the country.
Just because a job is better does not automatically mean someone will uproot their and their family’s lives. Dabo had a very good thing going in 2015 that was almost certain to get even better with the team they had and the facility that was under construction at the time.
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I guarantee you if UGA pursued him he would have left at that time.
There is absolutely no rational way you can say that.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 4:13 pm to djsdawg
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So a national championship game loss, which is exactly what Kirby has accomplished.
Kirby had an extremely loaded roster. In 2017 Georgia had a top 4 team in the team talent composite by 247.
2015 Clemson had 4 five stars. Alabama had 15.
48 - 29 for four stars.
+11 5-stars
+19 4-stars
(Blue chip difference of 30)
2017 Georgia and Alabama:
+7 5-stars
+8 4-stars
(Blue chip difference of 15)
They're no where near comparable teams in terms of talent.
As I said: Clemson is empirically more difficult to recruit and run than is Georgia.
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