re: Florida is now the SEC east favorite

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Going after a coach with a proven track record instead of a coordinator is a comically terrible cake?

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Is that the entirety of your post? Or are you trying to cherry pick?

"How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo? Or really any coach out there with a proven track record?

The last two years were practically served up on a silver platter and Kirby choked them both away. "

So Dabo wasn't available by any reasonable standard... The guy isn't leaving for anything other than a truck full of cash more than the next highest paid coach with aTm level guarantees... IF that.

And if we're using hindsight, let's make sure we evaluate what the known information was at the time of the hire. Dabo had been the Head Coach at Clemson for 8 seasons at that point... He had a career win percentage of 73.5... and had most recently been seen failing to get past Alabama in the national title game... Meanwhile, the coach we just fired had a 73.9% career win percentage and was seen as not being able to win the big game... Even if he'd been "available", the metrics don't point to that being a slam dunk, as he basically had the second best team in his division up until FSU decided they wanted to implode.

It also took Dabo ~3 seasons to get a previously consistent 8-9 win team to 10 wins. So again... if we're using past performance to measure likely success... Smart has outperformed Dabo's resume through three seasons as a HC as well.



With that said, what coach that has been hired from outside of a program since 2015 has a better resume at their current program than Smart?
3 seasons - 1 conference championship, 1 playoff appearance, 1 national title game appearance - and another top 5 finish in the final CFP standings before bowl selection.

Lincoln Riley is probably the only coach with a reasonably similar resume since then with 2 playoff appearances and a conference championship, but he was a brand new OC at Oklahoma when Smart was hired, and then fell into the HC job at that school upon Stoops' departure.

In 2015, the next best available coach was likely Tom Herman... Also a good coach, but ultimately wanted the Texas job and got it the next season. We likely would have been re-hiring. Behind that it was likely Justin Fuente and Matt Campbell...

By 2016, you could then include Charlie Strong as another coach with HC experience... but carried the Texas failure baggage.

If you want to use your own language, "any coach out there with a proven track record" would have included Will Muschamp, who had previously been HC for the Gators, was a known quality recruiter, former UGA player, and did have an 11-2 season with the Gators while attempting to clean up Urban's mess...


Generally speaking, there haven't been many coaches hired with particularly impressive past experience as HC since 2015... I know you're high on Mullen as a Gator fan, but he has zero conference championships as a head coach... in what? 9-10 seasons as a HC now? In what year do you predict that he will win his first at Florida? This season? When will he have his first playoff appearance? Because in order to even match Kirby's 1st HC gig with his second, that would need to happen this year.



And that's just looking at your comments on the hire itself... It's entirely unnecessary to point out how there is no such thing as "served up on a silver platter" when your opponent is fricking Nick Saban... We've played them about as well as any team not named Clemson now 2 years in a row. Don't need a participation trophy/award, but it's laughable to try and pretend like another coaching hire would have even put us in the position to play those games, let alone would have altered the outcome positively.

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How much better do you think it would be going if Georgia, instead of hiring Kirby Smart, let's say they went after Dabo? Or really any coach out there with a proven track record?

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You mean like the FSU coach? or the guy at Arkansas? How about the guy at MState?

I mean, you considered Mullen a proven coach after one school. (Actually you said he had a proven track record for turning programs around) So those three guys obviously had proven track records, too, right?

And as somebody already pointed out, Dabo wasn't leaving Clemson for Georgia. If he was going to leave Clemson, why didn't Florida go after him?
Especially after Chip kelly turned Florida down...I would think Dabo would have been a homerun hire, and as Florida fans like to point out, Florida is so much better than Georgia, right?

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Going after a coach with a proven track record instead of a coordinator is a comically terrible cake? I can see why 4th and 11 happened now, a man who takes after his retarded fans.

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LOFL.

Smart was the first ever at Bama to win the Broyles Award as the nation’s best assistant coach. He also won the FBS Assistant Coach of the Year Award & became the highest paid defensive coordinator in the country.

During his tenure at Alabama, the Crimson Tide won three BCS National Championships, one College Football Playoff national title, three SEC crowns, six SEC Western Division titles, and was ranked in the nation’s final top 10 the last eight years in a row.

And you question his football pedigree? In 2017, Smart was the SEC Coach of the Year & in 2018 came within a play of winning it all.

But don’t sell Mullen short. Last year’s WLOCP, on your own 1 yard line, Mullen called a shotgun RPO & Franks fumbled it away. What do you expect from a HC who averaged 8-4 over a decade? He couldn’t even keep the KY streak going..at home no less.

I find Georgia fans to be very insecure this offseason.

If a Florida fan says “man, we have a chance to be a pretty damn good team this year”

You get a barrage of angry Georgia fans saying how Florida has no chance to win anything, the talent gap is too big, etc.

It’s not outlandish to say the game between two preseason top 10 teams on a neutral field is going to decide who wins the SEC East. And it’s not a shot at Georgia to say that Florida is going to have a helluva squad.

Hahaha that's fricking feleipe Franks right there. Lol, that's funny shite, I don't care who you are.

Intellectual dishonesty at its finest folks...

There are certainly some troll UGA posters out there, but I'd love for you to find me a nice sampling of posts like you're describing from reputable UGA posters on this board that weren't otherwise prompted by complete asshattery like what's on display from Straws here.

I expect it from Straws... He's as Gator homer poster as they come, but I'd expect a little more sensible assessment coming from you.


I'm pretty sure there are a few from me that indicate that UF likely improves this season but that I see a much more likely win in Jacksonville for the Gators in 2020 when we replace starting QB, RB, and both OTs in all likelihood...

Pointing out a factual talent disparity and stronger consistent recruiting is not insecurity, rather supporting evidence for why many feel UGA fans disagree with the premise that the Gators are likely to win in Jacksonville this season. It doesn't mean it's impossible, but it's no more reasonable to expect UGA fans to admit that UF is going to be a huge challenge (given double digits wins in the previous two seasons and losses for UF along the OL for example) than it is for us to expect UF fans to willingly admit that they've got a pretty significant uphill battle.

You are confusing "angry" fans with "rational" fans.

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No, it's not, and when the Florida fans say this we would agree. Shall I post all the Gators posts saying they will beat us?

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The only posts you’ll find from me are pointing out that Georgia has flaws, too.

I don’t KNOW that Florida will beat Georgia. You don’t KNOW that Georgia will beat Florida. It’s going to come down to Jacksonville and even if Georgia has more on paper talent according to recruiting rankings, there is a gap in several spots in on field production, new play caller on offense (Kirby calls the defense, no?), and the fact that the Gators will be good that will hinder Georgia’s chances.

If Florida fans are declaring we will undoubtably win the East, that’s silly. Acknowledging we have a chance is not outlandish. I think most uga fans would agree with that assessment.

You hired a guy who y’all wanted fired in the past.

Good point. Why didn’t Florida hire dabo?!