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Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:35 pm to SaturdayNAthens
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:35 pm to SaturdayNAthens
I agree. Like all the idiots who voted for Biden and continue to support his destruction of our country and its middle class. But hey, no more mean tweets, right?
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Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:46 pm to Pleasenewdc
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I agree. Like all the idiots who voted for Biden and continue to support his destruction of our country and its middle class. But hey, no more mean tweets, right?
The destruction of the middle class is essentially a bipartisan agreement since the 1970s. Don't let conjecture and propaganda fool you on that one.
The real economic fight between red and blue is amongst the ownership class: finance v. extraction capital. You may end up aligning with one or the other due to proximity to their economic activity but the fight is not with you in mind.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:14 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Probably the only thing I really stand up for Biden on was getting the hell out of Afghanistan.
Thing is, Biden didn't get us out. The treaty and agreements were signed while Trump was in office. The only thing Biden had to do was the withdrawal part. Pull out all civilians first then pull out the military. Instead he started pulling out the military before the civilians so we have now what we have. A mess. We have civilians trapped there without enough military presence to protect them.
Not sure if you have seen, but it is falling apart fast right now. At least 12 military dead.
ETA
Clarification,,,Obama promised to be out of Afghanistan by the end of 2014. He failed to make that deadline (Probably a good decision) then Trump continued. The problem came because Biden accelerated the draw down and well....it's a bit of a mess to put it lightly.
ETAA
In 2021, a year that will mark the twentieth anniversary of the entry of U.S. troops into
Afghanistan, U.S. forces there are at the lowest level since 2001 due to the Trump
Administration’s reduction of U.S. forces to 2,500 and its conditional commitment to the
Taliban to withdraw fully by April 2021. Members of Congress have expressed a range
of views about the drawdown and are likely to continue to closely scrutinize the
drawdown’s impact on a range of U.S. policy interests.
Congressional Research Service
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:18 pm to DawgsLife
Gore Vidal:
The needle is now moving. 12 service members dead.
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not gonna move the needle, most Americans dgaf about Afghanistan, should've never been there in the first pla
The needle is now moving. 12 service members dead.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:18 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Don't let conjecture and propaganda fool you on that one.
CRT is such propaganda. Don’t forget that.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:19 pm to Chad 23
quote:My governor
Thank you Governor Desantis.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:22 pm to DawgsLife
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Thing is, Biden didn't get us out. The treaty and agreements were signed while Trump was in office. The only thing Biden had to do was the withdrawal part. Pull out all civilians first then pull out the military. Instead he started pulling out the military before the civilians so we have now what we have. A mess. We have civilians trapped there without enough military presence to protect them.
Not sure if you have seen, but it is falling apart fast right now. At least 12 military dead.
Part of the problem is that the civilians didn't really heed any advance warnings about needing to frick off and leave. As I've said, most of the US civilian citizens still in country have family naturalization issues they ought to have been taking care of since last February. Can't fix stupid. The CIA have some people of interest they want out but they're not near Kabul and probably were growing the poppy for them.
Furthermore, seems like it was a mutual enemy between the US and Taliban too. ISIS-K does not care for the Taliban and they had fatalities in this attack.
It's a shite show and makes me more resolute that Trump was right to sign this exit treaty and Biden was right to ignore the blob and take the fire he's receiving on the matter.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:24 pm to DawgsLife
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The needle is now moving. 12 service members dead.
2.5k+ service members died there and mostly no one gave a shite other than the families. The difference is now that the military-industrial complex and their simps in the media are running a hard press propaganda machine to discipline an executive for actually following through with something that is widely popular but is going to hurt their bottom line.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:24 pm to texag7
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Thankfully we have a constitution to protect us from vaccine nazis like yourself
You don't though... but Jacobson vs Massachusetts is exactly what gave us the Buck vs Bell decision. That's one the where they thought sterilizing retards was for the improvement of society. Literally nazis.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:28 pm to Diego Ricardo
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true liberals
True liberals are small government types.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:28 pm to 3down10
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True liberals are small government types.
True
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:28 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Part of the problem is that the civilians didn't really heed any advance warnings about needing to frick off and leave.
Wait....so the government can force people to take a vaccine before they are ready but they can't force them to get out of a dangerous country when it is imploding?
That seems rather odd. quote:Fair enough.
It's a shite show and makes me more resolute that Trump was right to sign this exit treaty and Biden was right to ignore the blob and take the fire he's receiving on the matter.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:32 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Part of the problem is that the civilians didn't really heed any advance warnings about needing to frick off and leave. As I've said, most of the US civilian citizens still in country have family naturalization issues they ought to have been taking care of since last February. Can't fix stupid. The CIA have some people of interest they want out but they're not near Kabul and probably were growing the poppy for them.
Furthermore, seems like it was a mutual enemy between the US and Taliban too. ISIS-K does not care for the Taliban and they had fatalities in this attack.
It's a shite show and makes me more resolute that Trump was right to sign this exit treaty and Biden was right to ignore the blob and take the fire he's receiving on the matter.
I gave up on keeping track of this years ago, but you aren't making much sense to me. I must be missing something.
Are you saying the Taliban was expected to take over the country this quickly and those people should have known?
Because what I've seen suggested the opposite.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:34 pm to Diego Ricardo
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2.5k+ service members died there and mostly no one gave a shite other than the families.
Over a 20 year period! You don't see the difference? This is a direct reflection on our current administration. I am hard pressed to think of a single thing Biden has done. The southern border is a total meltdown. Afghanistan has been fumbled badly.
Makes me wonder where the media is. I mean there were pictures of children in cages (Never mind the pictures were taken when Obama was in office and the cages were HIS administration) used against Trump.....the kids are still in cages and I haven't seen nor heard a peep about them. Apparently children matter only when they can be used to smear Trump.
Hey...don't get me wrong. I didn't vote in 2016 because I didn't like either candidate. However, at least when Trump came into office he did some things. Things like getting us out of bad treaties and agreements. (NAFTA, anyone?)
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:35 pm to DawgsLife
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Fair enough.
People really underestimate how the same forces that are dead set on dragging Biden through the mud about doing the right thing w/r/t Afghanistan would've been arrayed even more doggedly against Trump, who they already tarred and feathered in the media constantly.
The same panic about what to do about the collaborators asylum seekers. The same armchair quarterbacking about the military footing. The same crocodile tears about how we made all the yuck-mouthed Brits sad. Look, most of the same people below the spoils game were running this operation no matter what. The media would be shitting on Trump if he followed through with the exit.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:37 pm to BQAG02
Maybe they would rather pop some cow dewormer and wash it down with a swig of bleach.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:40 pm to 3down10
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I gave up on keeping track of this years ago, but you aren't making much sense to me. I must be missing something.
Are you saying the Taliban was expected to take over the country this quickly and those people should have known?
Because what I've seen suggested the opposite.
The DoD and NatSec elements in Washington were sunshine pumping the on-the-ground reality.
I served in the NG and my brother went to to Afghanistan. I've never met a man who came in contact with the ANA that thought they'd be an effective fighting force against the Taliban. The general feel was half were there for the pay/food/bed and the other half was there to spy for the Taliban. The US undermined the national government when they basically threw out the 2014 election following Karzai being term-limited.
Trump also essentially negotiated with only the Taliban in the 2020 agreement. The Afghanistan government would not come to the table and Trump's State Dept. saw the writing on the wall and decided to talk turkey with the clear winning team following the exit.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:41 pm to Diego Ricardo
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People really underestimate how the same forces that are dead set on dragging Biden through the mud about doing the right thing w/r/t Afghanistan would've been arrayed even more doggedly against Trump, who they already tarred and feathered in the media constantly.
Not necessarily. I mean, not even CNN can excuse what is going on any longer. They toted Biden's water as long as they could until the entire world finally sat up and took notice. And it took Afghanistan to do it.
quote:Meanwhile the media was talking about Trump taking a second scoop of ice cream.
The same panic about what to do about the collaborators asylum seekers. The same armchair quarterbacking about the military footing. The same crocodile tears about how we made all the yuck-mouthed Brits sad. Look, most of the same people below the spoils game were running this operation no matter what. The media would be shitting on Trump if he followed through with the exit.
Do you really think Biden and Trump have received equal coverage by the media?
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:44 pm to DawgsLife
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Do you really think Biden and Trump have received equal coverage by the media?
No, Biden received favorable coverage and good edits right up until the moment he decided to leave Afghanistan. He angered the Beltway and DoD North Virginian suburbs with that one and the media has been arrayed against him much like a typical Trump-does-anything cycle.
Biden was doing the stuff they wanted until he decided to cut off a 300m/day spigot of taxpayer money to Afghanistan that mostly ends up in the pockets of US industry.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:45 pm to SaturdayNAthens
The same government that rolled that Afghanistan plan? No thanks.
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