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Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:02 am to Weagle25
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Because schools aren’t judged on their history excluding two coaches.
When you include those 2 coaches UFs history is one of mediocrity. Including those 2 coaches UF has a lower winning % than the other top 5 original SEC teams and 7th with the addition of UT and OU. UF Has a losing record, all time, to 4 of the top 5 winningest original SEC teams. By any measure UF is a mid tier SEC team with or without Spurrier or Meyer.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:03 am to Summer of Jimbo
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They are pretty much a top 25 team of all time in wins, national championships and heismans?
They are about 5th or 6th in the SEC alone.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:06 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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I played under Charlie Pell and Galen Hall and if it wasn’t for the NCAA, UF would have won several more titles.
No doubt without some rules Florida would have been more competitive. Unfortunately for Florida there used to be rules in place and when you decided to break them you paid the price. Now that there are no rules and no one has to follow them Florida is at a competitive disadvantage.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:27 am to captdalton
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So why is Florida considered such a premiere program?
I don't know that we are, but UF, FSU and Miami all came up at the same time, which is basically the modern era of college football. None were traditional powers or any kind of powers 60 years ago when the "traditional" powers were playing white boy football.
But I don't really care what kind of moniker is attached to our history. I just want to field a competitive team, which is not too much to ask given our resources.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:27 am to AwgustaDawg
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No doubt without some rules Florida would have been more competitive. Unfortunately for Florida there used to be rules in place and when you decided to break them you paid the price.
Yeah frick off with this shite. There were many teams cheating that didn't pay the price including Georgia. The NCAA has a terrible history of selectively enforcing the rules.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 5:30 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:42 am to Summer of Jimbo
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a Richt style coach
You mean a coach that averages 10 wins a year?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:44 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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I played under Charlie Pell and Galen Hall and if it wasn’t for the NCAA, UF would have won several more titles.
So, what you are saying is..."If the NCAA had not caught us cheating we would have won more!"?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:48 am to DawgsLife
Every school was doing this… stop being a hypocrite.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:50 am to FireDanMullen
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I don’t think anyone is arguing Florida is a traditional power.
I actually would. Just not from the arguments some Gators are using. You can't throw out sections of history. Florida was very dominant for a long stretch. But the argument that more wins and titles would have been ours if we hadn't been caught cheating is not a good one.
(I realize you were not the one that made the argument, but i wanted to address your post by saying Florida does deserve to be considered a traditional power. That said, you guys need to address what is going on, or it will be more difficult to make the argument)
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:50 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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and the Gators have won more than 1/4 of all the SEC championships and the 2nd most but you’re saying what? What are we talking about again? I’m old.
UF has won 8 SEC Titles. Alabama has won 30, UGA has won 14, UT has won 13, LSU has won 12 and Auburn has matched UF with 8. 8 is about 9% of the total number of SEC Championships in Football. Its not 1/4 or 25% and UF is certainly not second in the number or SEC championships won behind Alabama.
Georgia is an abysmal basketball school. UGA has won as many regular season SEC titles and SEC tournaments as Florida has won in football.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:05 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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So not much different than UF…
Our definition of “much different” must be much different. Or are you claiming Florida is equivalent to Alabama all time? Or currently? Or since 1983?
Do you think that Florida State, Nebraska, Washington, Clemson, Miami and Auburn are currently premiere programs? If you think Florida is, you must think those are as well since they have lots of similarities.
With the upcoming coaching search at Florida, we will find out what coaches think of the program. Didn’t the last search get a little ugly?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:19 am to captdalton
Depending on what the "modern era" is UF is third in the conference in winning %. One UF fan said 1973 and most of the time 1980 seems to be the year. Either way UF is at 68% and 70% respectively. Alabama is at 78% and 76% and UGA is at 72% and 74%. To round out the big 6 Auburn is at 64 and66%, UT is at 63 and 65% and LSU is at 65 and 66%.. That puts UF closer to Auburn and LSU in either span than they are to UGA. By any measure UF is a mid tier SEC school, historically or in the "modern" era.
UF is a good program. They are not elite historically and they are somewhere around 25th in winning % etc. There is nothing wrong with that, pretending the program is historically bad at the moment is simply not true....UF is closer to their history today than their best years.
UF is a good program. They are not elite historically and they are somewhere around 25th in winning % etc. There is nothing wrong with that, pretending the program is historically bad at the moment is simply not true....UF is closer to their history today than their best years.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:24 am to FireDanMullen
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Yep there’s been bad seasons, still don’t really know what your point is besides backdoor comments lol
There are some Florida fans on here that seem to think they can hand pick any coach they want to replace Napier.
My point is two fold. One, very few programs if any can do that. But Florida fans think they can. My question was why do they feel this way? It can’t be their history. Is it because they are in the state of Florida?
My second point was that Florida has a VERY long list of coaches who have NOT won a SEC titlle and a very short list of coaches who have. Florida fans are wanting a coach that will win them national championships. Why don’t you guys try to walk before you run and try to win a SEC title first? Or hell, just have a winning record. That would be a good place to start.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:50 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:Go look up the 100+ violations the NCAA claimed, half of which they retracted and ask yourself did ANY of those violations give UF a competitive advantage. When an athlete borrows a couple hundred dollars from a friend, who happened to be an assistant, so he could travel to his moms funeral, that he paid back and the ncaa says that’s a violation. Screw the ncaa. They sucked and were in the wrong for decades profiting off of slave labor.
No doubt without some rules Florida would have been more competitive. Unfortunately for Florida there used to be rules in place and when you decided to break them you paid the price. Now that there are no rules and no one has to follow them Florida is at a competitive disadvantage.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:55 am to captdalton
quote:Where are you getting this? You are being very disingenuous. You start a thread with an ulterior motive. Now you’re accusing SOME UF FANS that seem to think? Who are these UF fans?
There are some Florida fans on here that seem to think they can hand pick any coach they want to replace Napier.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:01 am to Weagle25
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Because schools aren’t judged on their history excluding two coaches.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:48 am to captdalton
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Florida fans are wanting a coach that will win them national championships. Why don’t you guys try to walk before you run and try to win a SEC title first?
Florida had 3 national titles and 8 conference championships in like a 20 year span? Literally only Bama has had a better run in the last 30 years in terms of championships. And this wasn’t like 5 decades ago, this was in the 90s and late 2000s lmao.
Saying Florida shouldn’t expect championships when they’re one of like 4 programs to win 3 national titles in the last 30 years? Absolutely insane lmao. Seems like you have 0 points whatsoever and just believe Florida shouldn’t expect to compete for championships bc of your own subjective opinion lmao. It’s one thing to say this if Florida hasn’t won any championships. It’s completely different when Florida is one of like 4 programs that have had national championship success at their levels the last 30 years.
This is like talking to a child about grown up things. “Try winning an SEC championship first!” Uh we have and national titles as well as fairly recently in the grand scheme of college football. it’s pretty rare to go on a run that Bama just went on dipshit lmao
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:53 am to captdalton
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wanting a coach that will win them national championships. Why don’t you guys try to walk before you run and try to win a SEC title first? Or hell, just have a winning record. That would be a good place to start.
Generally if you’re winning a lot of games and winning SEC titles, you aren’t looking for a new head coach.
Another incredible point lmao
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:06 am to captdalton
Try charlie pale idiot allook at the 80s
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