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Flores Sabotaged Tua (link)

Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Nitro Express
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:09 pm
How was Tua Tagovailoa supposed to succeed when his head coach was undercutting him at every opportunity? Let’s take a look at some of the damning facts – and also some unconfirmed, yet widely believed speculations:

Tua was inserted into Miami’s starting lineup during his rookie season before he was fully healed from a devastating hip injury sustained during his final college appearance
Tua was pulled from games where he struggled – being replaced by Ryan Fitzpatrick on multiple occasions during his rookie season
Miami’s offensive line was one of the worst pass-blocking units in all of football and, arguably, the worst offensive line in team history
Tua was surrounded by the worst pass-catching core in regards to separation in the entire NFL during his rookie season

After just his first year, trade rumors – allegedly fueled by Flores himself – were aplenty, and did not cease even when the subject of those rumors was accused of twenty-two sexual misconduct allegations
It has been alleged that Flores had Tagovailoa tested for performance enhancing drugs as many as four times in the offseason due to the mass that the young quarterback had been cultivating

Tua was sent to injured-reserve this season even while telling those closest to him that he was healthy enough to play, leading some to believe that Flores did so in retaliation for what he perceived as “insubordination”
During his two-year tenure in Miami, Tua has played for 4 different offensive coordinators – 5 if you include Charlie Frye who was calling plays early on in the 2021 season – due to turnover attributed to Flores’ inability to maintain positive relationships with those who work closest to him

After Flores’ dismissal, suddenly Miami Dolphins owner, Stephen Ross, no longer has an interest in acquiring Deshaun Watson from Houston, nor does GM, Chris Grier

SBNation
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:13 pm to
Imagine sucking so bad that your head coach sets himself up to get fired in order to get away from you
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:14 pm to
I would be surprised if the Miami OC or OL coach ever were hired again in the NFL.

That was a complete clusterfeck. It was like Tua had to have the ball gone within 2 seconds.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:16 pm to
I like Tua but can you guys be ok with the fact (should it ever be revealed) that Tua is not all that when compared to other NFL QBs? Not everybody can be a good NFL QB. It's ok.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:21 pm to
Tua is one of the most accurate passers in the NFL. The Fins offense is a joke and Dan Marino would struggle trying to run that scheme.

Year 3 will tell the tale on Tua. But if they send out the same OL personal then he is in big trouble.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16185 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

I like Tua but can you guys be ok with the fact (should it ever be revealed) that Tua is not all that when compared to other NFL QBs? Not everybody can be a good NFL QB. It's ok.


Doesn't a player need to be given a proper chance for anyone to make that determination? He was surrounded by idiots and people deliberately trying to cause him to fail. That's not going to work out great for anyone.

That said, wasn't Tua like 7-1 his last 8 starts? It was something like that but I'm in a hurry and can't go look it up. He's played pretty well considering his opposition.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:22 pm to
I definitely read all that

And I agree with you completely or think that you don't know what you're talking about
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:22 pm to
Tua is nade of glass and was a waisted draft pick.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:23 pm to
Well as a UGA fan you know what top QB play in the NFL is....

wait
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:24 pm to
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the mass that the young quarterback had been cultivating

Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

That said, wasn't Tua like 7-1 his last 8 starts?


Go look at who they played. It was some of the worst qb plays of all time.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:26 pm to
LSU fans get off on Bama players that struggle in the NFL.

Same players that kicked their azz 10 of 11 games.

Am I doing this right?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:28 pm to
Stafford roasted The Cards and Murray the other night so yeah. Tua, Hurts, et all arent going to make it. Hell Fields may not make it.

Baker Mayfield, not making it.

You about 3 years and then everyone gets fired in the nfl.

Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:31 pm to
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Tua was pulled from games where he struggled – being replaced by Ryan Fitzpatrick on multiple occasions during his rookie season


So Flores is being criticized for trying to win games? He did a good job in Miami and should get another job quickly.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25554 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:33 pm to
All the negative talk abo it Tua would not be happening if Flores didn’t bench him twice during his rookie year for having some normal rookie struggles. Every rookie has tough games and are allowed to play through it….Flores just benched Tua and created all this negative buzz.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Tua was inserted into Miami’s starting lineup . . .Tua was pulled from games where he struggled


So he undermined him by inserting him into the lineup, and then undermined him by removing him from the lineup when he struggled? I think you might be a tad loose with your use of the word undermining. Because these exact things have happened to damn near every QB that has ever played in the NFL.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16185 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:34 pm to
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LSU fans get off on Bama players that struggle in the NFL


It's really sad.
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