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re: Fire Long & Pelphrey Please

Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by Hog Springs
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

I think the problem is more hiring terrible coaches than trying to cling to Nolan

The problem is style. People in Arkansas have seen a certain style work and that's what they want. Until we win anything with a different style it will always be the same.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8768 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

The problem is style. People in Arkansas have seen a certain style work and that's what they want. Until we win anything with a different style it will always be the same.


This guy gets it. 40 Minutes of Hell was OUR style. I want it back.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
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Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:15 pm to
Fire Opie!
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140708 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:23 pm to
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OUR style. I want it back.


Including the Pony City Wings and the first jerseys that had Razorbacks under the number and looked like a 3rd grade class drew it on with crayons
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8768 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:29 pm to
It's not just the style. MA has proven he can win. He has been to the elite 8 with mizzou and took a conference USA team to the sweet 16. This is the guy that can lead us back to the promised land.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140708 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:36 pm to
I am not disagreeing with you about his ability. I just think its time to let it go. People need to move on, Anderson has. I really think it will go down like this...

1. Offer Dixon until he threatens a TRO
2. Offer Cuonzo or Buzz Williams if they both balk, one of them takes the job, then go after Crean.
3. Make sure that the people in Arkansas understand he WANTS to be here, dont hide anything in process.
4. Make the new guy be seen with people from the past, as a passing of torch (invite Sutton, Nolan, Moncrief, Boot, Klien, etc to the PC)

ETA:

Make sure he knows how to call the hogs also (see Altman and Heath on how NOT to do it)
This post was edited on 2/2/11 at 11:38 pm
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
59708 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:42 pm to
I know one thing. Last week Long started to change his tune. He didn't say Pel is our man like he has the past two season, but he said "we will re-evaluate the program after the season"
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8768 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:48 pm to
I don't have a problem with letting it go if MA doesn't want to come to Arkansas. But I think there is at least a chance that he does and, IMO, he is the best coach we could get. If he is offered the job and declines, that's fine.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41448 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:52 pm to
If we can't get MA then my vote for the next phone call would definitely be Cuonzo. He is proving he can flat out coach at MSU and is doing great at recruiting outside of the state for a school that traditionally only recruits locally.

With that being said, we had better damn well throw the bank at MA before we even dare move on to someone else.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140708 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:56 pm to
I think Cuonzo is doing a better job than coach ever did at SMS. I just think we got a great recruiting class the year we got a Mr Basketball from Indiana and the Little Lord. But Sam was the key to our success, IMO. But coach was still the best shooter on campus, I loved playing against him after px, except when one of my student mgrs would start talking shite to him...then he would start spotting at John making the net rip.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38169 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:22 am to
quote:

I know one thing. Last week Long started to change his tune. He didn't say Pel is our man like he has the past two season, but he said "we will re-evaluate the program after the season"


^^^^^^^^^^ This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I was pleasantly surprised when I heard this out of JL's mouth, maybe just AD speak though.

But just maybe the Boosters are starting to put on the pressure...
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19138 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 1:13 am to
quote:

people wanted the "Eddie" times when Nolan was hired.

Not me. I knew what Nolan could do from watching his Tulsa teams.
quote:

They sure did not want a guy wearing Polka-dotted leisure suits walking around.

I didn't care if he wore a too-too, as long as we won. But you're right, a lot of people were uncomfortable, initially.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 4:47 am to
quote:

2. Offer Cuonzo or Buzz Williams if they both balk, one of them takes the job, then go after Crean.

lmao.

I would pour honey on my d*ck and roll around in a ant farm before I would want them as our coach.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 6:45 am to
quote:

Posted by Hog Springs
quote:
I think the problem is more hiring terrible coaches than trying to cling to Nolan
The problem is style. People in Arkansas have seen a certain style work and that's what they want. Until we win anything with a different style it will always be the same.




I'm afraid you're right.
Our fans need to grow up and realize 40 minutes of hell is dead and learn the stinking game. We need a coach who will develop players that can exploit another team's weakness, and play either full or half court sets to do so. Yes, be opportunistic but also be disciplined and controlled.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27154 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 6:50 am to
Flagship Titanick
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:13 am to
Pel is a .500 coach. That's who he is.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36304 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:19 am to
Pel is 10 times better coach than Rick Stansbury

You guys want to trade straight up?

I know you want Mike Andeson, but I dont think he wants to come back to Arkansas.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 8:25 am to
No, we deserve a top tier coach.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
59708 posts
Posted on 2/5/11 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by RammerJammerBammer
Land of the Tennessee Titans
Member since Sep 2009
9153 posts
Posted on 2/5/11 at 6:50 pm to
woopig you arent interested in Coach Grant are you?
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