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re: Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.

Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:29 pm to
Move to 9 Conference Games

Move Auburn to the East, Missouri to the west

Each team has 2 cross-conference rival games and 1 rotational


Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86618 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Move Auburn to the East, Missouri to the west


No.

It's unorthodox but I like the roommate switch idea, or the one that was an offshoot of that posted a few pages back. Essentially you have 3 permanent opponents (ours would be UF/AU/SC) and then it's just a rotation of everybody else. I would miss playing UT/UK/VU every year just since I'm used to them being on our schedule year in and year out, but it would be nice not to have to wait 12 years after aTm joined the conference to make a trip out there too.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:36 pm to
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Move to 9 Conference Games


no thanks
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:26 pm to
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Unfortunately for the rest of the pee-on SEC programs, Alabama and Tennessee built this shite on our own backs.

So we will and absolutely should continue to get whatever we want.

You're welcome for the relevance the rest of your programs benefit from.

The funny part is you actually believe this.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 12:59 am to
The really funny part is the only reason he gives UT any credit at all is because he can't explain Bear Bryant being 0-fer against Neyland...
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 1:38 am to
Mizzou is just as far from Texas AM as FLA.

As it is now Mizzou borders 4 annual opponents.

Stop listening to Finebaum.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19276 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 4:48 am to
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Mizzou is just as far from Texas AM as FLA.

As it is now Mizzou borders 4 annual opponents.

Stop listening to Finebaum.


You can't just throw a border school like Missouri around willy nilly due to recruiting emphasis.

We we're assigned to the East and allocated our resources away from Texas and to Georgia and Florida.

It's fine the way it is.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17342 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:55 am to
I dont see any real reason to flip them. You do that then you're looking at Mizzou-Kentucky or Mizzou-Tennessee as the permanent game. Kentucky-Mississsippi State is fine and Tennessee-Bama doesn't need to change. Auburn would gain Florida and Tennessee annually but lose LSU and Ole Miss. Just seems like this would create a lot of unnecessary hassle. Mizzou-A&M at least makes sense, Carolina-Arkansas was just forced.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34356 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 6:45 am to
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Why won't people stop with this 9 game bullshite?


Because it's going to happen. Only reason it hasn't is to keep it as a bargaining chip in negotiations with other conferences. Eventually we will get something we want, and in return all Power 5 conferences will play 9 games in conference.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
63005 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 10:01 am to
Yes, thanks.
I'm tired of the SEC being scared to play more conference games.
I'd much rather play a Missouri or a South Carolina than a Chattanooga or Towson.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:29 pm to
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3down10
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.

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Move Vandy and Missouri west and Alabama and Auburn east. It solves all problems and allows to continue with a permanent cross division game.
The new cross division games should then be....
Ole Miss vs Georgia
Vanderbilt vs Tennessee
Missouri vs South Carolina
Texas A&M vs Alabama
Arkansas vs Auburn



Not bad, but I think the exact opposite is needed even though I like what you are trying to accomplish.

To start, there is no reason to even have a east and west division. The recent NCAA rule changes regarding conference championships removed the rule that forced east and west divisions. We don't have to have them.

So, what we do instead of getting rid of the permanent rivalry games is we only have like 2 of them per team. Alabama would play Tennessee and Auburn every year. Auburn would play Alabama and Georgia every year. I guess Georgia would play Auburn and Florida. etc. If 3 is needed, then so be it.

All the other games rotate. And with all those games rotating, we will play every SEC team in the country every 2 or 3 years.

Take the 2 teams with the best records, use the normal common sense tie breakers, and in the event of a 3 way tie take the highest 2 that are ranked in the CFP committees weekly ranking.

Or, can just get rid of the rival games to and just rotate all 8 games. That would be fine with me. But I figure keeping the few rivalry games every year will appease the traditionalists.




Sounds good in theory, but Les will STILL find something to b**** about with it!
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:47 pm to
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allin2010
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.
It will not happen, but it should.

First expansion we kept Florida and Georgia. (2 permanents) Swapped UT for LSU.
Then it went to one permanent

I would rather move to the East and play our old Rivals again. However getting rid of divisions is the only long term answer. Will happen eventually.


Do NOT get rid of divisions. It's the ONLY way we can compare 7 of the 14 teams against each other because they share 6 common opponents! You go "free for all" & there will be ENDLESS gripes about unfair schedules because there is nothing to compare each other with.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:55 pm to
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Dawg in Beaumont
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.
The answer is 9 conference games.

A 14 team conference with 8 league games will never fit properly.


I'm still surprised the SEC didn't plan for that when adding more teams. HOW do you INCREASE the conference, but NOT conference games?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:57 pm to
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WG_Dawg
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.

quote:
The answer is 9 conference games.



I don't necessarily mind 9 conference games, but UGA/SC/UF are then put at a disadvantage because we all play a built in OOC game with our in state rivals every year. That basically means that those teams will only have 2 games a year to schedule tune up games, while the rest of the league can have 3.



Don't forget UK/Louisville to that list.

& all 4 are SEC/ACC matchups.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 5:59 pm to
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SFVtiger
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.
do away w/ cross division rivalries and keep the 8 game schedule. if Ala/Tn and/or Ga/Fla or anybody else's present cross divisional rivals want to play each other every year, doesn't count as an SEC game when not on the regular rotation.

at least the rotation is not held up by those who are not interested in a permanent cross division rival.


That is the DUMBEST thing anybody has suggested. WHY THE F*** would we play an SEC game & NOT have it count?
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12720 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 6:35 pm to
The funny thing is Missouri probably doesn't want to move to the west.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:07 pm to
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Lonnie Utah
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.

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If you did this, the only team in the western division who has won an SEC title over the past 50 years would be LSU. That is so much worse than the imbalance now its absurd.



And my retort is "So what?" Why do historical championships matter in MODERN DAY college football? Does UGA's 1980 national championship have any bearing on college football today? Not really. What really needs to be looked at is where the balance of power might lay in the future an try to equalize that.


& we were to expect Miss. & MSU to be such a dominant force like they did recently? HOW would you prepare that or just think of them being the lower part of SEC fb?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:28 pm to
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Lonnie Utah
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.
The other REALLY, REALLY big problem with 9 conference games is every other year you'll have 4 home games and 5 away. And EVERYONE here knows how difficult it is to win on the road in the SEC. 1/2 the teams in the conference will start the year with a competitive disadvantage, which is inherently unfair.


Then go to 16 teams & 4 pods of 4. MUCH EASIER to format schedules than with 14.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:31 pm to
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Keltic Tiger
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.
Re the 9 game schedule. Add to that the SECCG & that means that that year's 2 best teams would be playing a 10 game SEC season. Mix in the one obligatory above average OOC game each year & the chances of an SEC team winning the NC gets smaller & smaller. But as for tradition: as I am reading this, the league's scheduling mess is what it is, and all concerned agree that it is a mess, because of 4 out of the league's 14 teams. To me, insuring that no team/s has a competitive edge far outweighs tradition, especially in this day & age when traditional games are ending across the country.


WRONG! The "mess" as you put it is Les's complaints that he has to play UF more than UGA & UT. Well, Les, Alabama has to play UT more than UGA & UF. Oh wait, Aub. has to play UGA more than UT & UF. *SMH* WHAT are we going to do?

BTW, FWIW, ONLY LSU is the complainer of those 6 teams.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7394 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:33 pm to
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everytrueson
Finebaum took up the "Auburn to the East" thing again today.

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It just makes too much sense to swap Auburn and Missouri, not only geographically but from the standpoint of competitive balance.

It's all about the Alabama-Tennessee game. Nothing else. Nothing. The old timers don't want that game to go away. So because of this, Missouri finds itself in the same division with Florida. It's just stupid, stupid, stupid.

It's time.



Great, now the West will be down every year.


Oh no - Les won't have that!
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