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re: FBI complicit in the NCAA/SEC conspiracy to let AU off the hook?

Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:25 am to
Posted by e2drummer
Member since Jun 2009
4221 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:25 am to
I'm sorry, but all of this stuff reminds me too much of the Gadsden rumors.

W&L = irontiger and Mark Green

The only difference is that this time, the rumor was fabricated and attached to an already occurring scandal to try to give the rumor some credibility.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64537 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:26 am to
Was there a reason to talk to Rogers or Cecil, I mean after they acted as his agent to shop him, and already admitted it? It would have to be for something else if they did interview them IMO.
Posted by CaseyMc2
Louisiana Native
Member since Feb 2009
4092 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:44 am to
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The only difference is that this time, the rumor was fabricated and attached to an already occurring scandal to try to give the rumor some credibility.


I do not have any fish to fry in this battle except when it comes to the Conference as a whole and the effects it could have on LSU. With all that I have seen and what is going on now there is no difference at all. The individuals that got Auburn into trouble before are the same ones that are in control now. My problem is how can this be when they where told by the very commishners of the SACS to be removed and the people in control be overhauled. What I am seeing is the same old thing is happening again.

I do not want anything like this to happen to any of our schools because when it does it hurts us all. I see no good in Lowder, Geddy and Rane and all the others that have had a strangle hold on Auburn for the last 25 or 30 years. You might say well that is Auburn and not LSU well I have family and friends that go that school and are in the teaching ranks of the Veterinarian school and I do not want them hurt whatsoever.

I think it is special that one State could have back to back NC and Heismen winners in fact the first to do so. But at what cost is it going to cost in the long run for your program if because of selfish deeds of a few bad apples that will spoil the whole bushel in the process, I just do not see it. I am LSU first and then the SEC, always has been and always will be. Been associated with all my 61 years of life, well as far back as I can remember, I know the 1958 NC and Cannon run. Good Luck to yall in LA but at the sametime I want what is right for this Conference as a whole.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60661 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 1:23 am to
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That is the way the FBI works. They will know all they need to know when they finally get to the big players in this and they will have already investigated to the point of giving the people in question 2 options: 1. Tell the truth or 2. Purgor themselves


The way the FBI works? They ask the questions, when they know the answers.

Posted by MichiganTiger
Where Global Warming is Welcomed!
Member since Dec 2004
7855 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 9:46 am to
The bottom line is that if the FBI is investigating this 'casino scandal,' then they really don't care about the Newtons at all. If they have mountains of paperwork....and if there is information hanging AU in that paperwork...it won't see the light of day until they conclude their investigation and prosecute the folks they are targeting. NOW...after it's all PUBLIC...and a matter of PUBLIC information, then the NCAA can take the ball and run with it. Until then...because the NCAA has NO subpoena privileges...NO ONE from AU is going to pipe up with "Yep, we paid Cam!" No way in hell that happens. Unless there is an outside source, I say that AU skates on this!!!
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 10:17 am to
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The bottom line is that if the FBI is investigating this 'casino scandal,' then they really don't care about the Newtons at all. If they have mountains of paperwork....and if there is information hanging AU in that paperwork...it won't see the light of day until they conclude their investigation and prosecute the folks they are targeting. NOW...after it's all PUBLIC...and a matter of PUBLIC information, then the NCAA can take the ball and run with it. Until then...because the NCAA has NO subpoena privileges...NO ONE from AU is going to pipe up with "Yep, we paid Cam!" No way in hell that happens. Unless there is an outside source, I say that AU skates on this!!!


There's nothing there to start with. The FBI was never investigating the Newton's or anything like that. To say otherwise indicates a lack of knowledge about the whole incident.

You are correct, the NCAA gets to touch nothing until the FBI is done with their case and then makes everything part of public record.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37469 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 10:24 am to
Cecil and Kenny have already confessed to shopping Cam. So why does the FBI need to interview either?

FBI: Yo, have you two been shopping players?

C & K: Uh yeah.

FBI: I guess we're done here.
Posted by TheoreticalTiger
Big 10 Football sucks!!!
Member since Sep 2010
2698 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 10:31 am to
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I do not have any fish to fry in this battle except when it comes to the Conference as a whole and the effects it could have on LSU. With all that I have seen and what is going on now there is no difference at all.


Really? AU has what should be an ineligible player that was the only reason AU beat LSU and it makes no difference?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37469 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 10:43 am to
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Multiple media sources are saying the lid is getting ready to blow off of this thing.....


If this had any truth Barrett Trotter would have started last Saturday


Lulz. AU is not going to bench Cam. Why do you think AU declared Cam ineligible AFTER he played in the Iron Bowl? AU is so desperate it's funny.
Posted by MichiganTiger
Where Global Warming is Welcomed!
Member since Dec 2004
7855 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:37 pm to
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There's nothing there to start with. The FBI was never investigating the Newton's or anything like that. To say otherwise indicates a lack of knowledge about the whole incident.


I hope you know that I'm not buying into the Newtons being investigated by the FBI. I'm not reading that anywhere either. What's be implicated (fact or fiction) is that they and AU may have gotten caught up in an investigation of some potent AU boosters. OOPS!

Unless this smoking gun exists and finds the light of day due to public disclosure, then you (AU) will skate. It's painfully obvious that someone paid money for Cam...but proving it is a whole nuther matter!

Now, if there's enough suspicion and evidence to warrant an investigation to the Newtons for tax evasion????????

Let's face it...someone paid for Cam...and right now, he was worth every penny. Without Cam, Auburn would have been mediocre at best. That man put the team on his shoulders and carried you to where you currently are.

This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 2:40 pm
Posted by CaseyMc2
Louisiana Native
Member since Feb 2009
4092 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 4:03 pm to
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I do not have any fish to fry in this battle except when it comes to the Conference as a whole and the effects it could have on LSU. With all that I have seen and what is going on now there is no difference at all.
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Really? AU has what should be an ineligible player that was the only reason AU beat LSU and it makes no difference?


You are focusing on the first sentence and not what is said following it. Read what I said through out the post and I do care how it effects LSU and the Conference as a whole. Read and think before you post.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45981 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 5:27 pm to
It is not a foorball or pay for play investigation. It was orginally a bank fraud case, but now is much broader dealing with gambling, bribery, extortion, mail fraud, public corruption, etc. The only interest the FBI has is that the Cam newton AU pay for play scam explained some of the taped conversations and slush funds.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55772 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 6:12 pm to
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Anybody who knows anything about criminal investigations knows that law enforcement likes to talk to the main suspects ASAP to lock them into a story they cant change later on.


They are not the main suspects. Cam and his piece of shite father are the least of the FBI's concerns. They will talk to them when appropriate. This is about Auburn and a system of corruption that has been in place for a long time and is is about to come to an end. This is not about football.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 6:26 pm to
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FBI are generally incompetent, the only thing they have going for them is almost unlimited resources. Take your average mailman and give him a badge that pretty much sums up FBI.


Sounds like a typical statement for an Arky fan
Posted by TBama93k
Member since Nov 2010
8056 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 6:27 pm to
No one in hear knows what the fbi is thinking, planning, doing, has done. why fight about it? none of us know anything for sure
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 6:29 pm to
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They are not the main suspects. Cam and his piece of shite father are the least of the FBI's concerns. They will talk to them when appropriate. This is about Auburn and a system of corruption that has been in place for a long time and is is about to come to an end. This is not about football.


Three weeks right?
Posted by WDChizik
Glendale, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6052 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 6:33 pm to
If Bobby Lowder, Pat Dye, and a few others end up in jail, I'd be happy with the FBI.
This post was edited on 12/25/10 at 6:33 pm
Posted by GambitAUfan
Member since Nov 2010
3092 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 10:21 pm to
Anybody that says the FBI is investigating Auburn or Cam Newton is full of it.

I'm not saying that something couldn't turn up with the casino investigation. However, at this point, Bama is just as likely to get caught cheating via the FBI as Auburn. You better check up on all those people who got indicted BlueTuna. Many of those have very very deep Bama ties.

How funny would that be. This FBI casino sting tapes get released and one of those Bama boosters talks.
Posted by bwhite2435
Eufaula, Alabama
Member since Dec 2008
453 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 10:27 pm to
FBI probe has nothing to do with Cam or the Barn. The link if the rumors are true would be with the free debit card which would be an issue with the federal government seeing as that bank got Tarp money. The rumors also include a link to illegal slot machines that are set to pay off to selected persons. If any of this information is true FBI information would not be release until they go to trial so as not to influence potential jurors which would cause a mistrial.

This means you have many more months to hear rumors which will cause you to post theirs not link to the Barn posts.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107185 posts
Posted on 12/25/10 at 10:43 pm to
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Multiple media sources are saying the lid is getting ready to blow off of this thing.....


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