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Experts poking holes in data B1G used to cancel

Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:30 pm
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:30 pm
As the paper the B1G and PAC 12 relied on to make their decision to postpone football gets examined, medical and mathematical experts are calling the information faulty. Dr. Venka Murthy, Rubenfire Professor of preventive cardiology at the University of Michigan said the paper should be corrected or retracted. Professor Darrel Francis, cardiologist, from London pointed out several statistical errors and miscalculations.

In short, they made this decision based on a load of horseshite.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64930 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:54 pm to
I saw that thread on Twitter. I couldn't understand a word of it.

Here it is linked for those of you who are curious:

Twitter

Apparently this respected cardiologist from Britain is laughing his arse off at the paper the Big Ten based its decision on and is calling bullshite.


This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1706 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:58 pm to
I am sure the various decision makers were forum shopping far and wide for the medical opinion that would allow them to shut it down.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40851 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:08 am to
Which is humorous considering the go to excuse on Twitter right now for them on the SEC is that we doctor shopped for someone who would give us the answer we want.
Posted by clf1234
LA
Member since Nov 2014
50 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:08 am to
Thanks for sharing. Good info. When the SEC/ACC/Big12 play ball they will be praised for the slow and methodical approach they applied. The other guys were foolish for canceling the season August 11. They could have bought themselves some time by pushing their seasons back a little but they choose to politicize a cfb season by submitting to a nazi liberal agenda and they will literally pay for it...
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5680 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:40 am to
Dr. Rhea called it out days ago.

quote:


Matt Rhea, PhD

@MattRheaPhD

Now all of a sudden myocarditis is an “unknown” possibility? I eluded to it in a paper I published in 2009 about sudden cardiac death among athletes. It happens after most infections. We watch for warning signs all the time. Screening now is very good. Nothing new here





And added

quote:


@MattRheaPhD

Sorry, got a text from a cardiologist friend of mine suggesting a re-word. Myocarditis may be caused by most viral infections but is extremely rare. Thanks Doug



This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 12:42 am
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 1:25 am to
Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (since 1984) says something about covid:
“tHaT aiNt tRuE! yOu dOnT kNoW wHaT u tALkin bOuT!”


A coach for A1abana says something about covid:
“wOw, gReAt iNfOrMaTioN dOcToR.”

Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 1:38 am to
Bill is so, so scared football gets played and LSU falls back to Earth.


My goodness brother get it together
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 2:23 am to
Don’t be ridiculous Sandy. It’s been years since any turd in this conference has knocked off tDynasty.

Make no mistake, I want football. But if it’s between: playing a few games, having an outbreak, and shutting it down - or not starting, I’d rather not even start.

I don’t want to go through the same “what could’ve been” crap that we went through with March Madness. That was one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had watching sports.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14854 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 2:40 am to
quote:

Don’t be ridiculous Sandy. It’s been years since any turd in this conference has knocked off tDynasty.

Make no mistake, I want football. But if it’s between: playing a few games, having an outbreak, and shutting it down - or not starting, I’d rather not even start.

I don’t want to go through the same “what could’ve been” crap that we went through with March Madness. That was one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had watching sports.


Back then the COVID-19 was not yet well known and how it was best to handle the situation. Now the information is out and got a lot of information about the COVID-19. Look at some of the pro sports! It is doable! Got to be very strict with the coaches and players with their activities.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29204 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:40 am to
I don’t think anyone this entire pandemic has been worried or brought up myocarditis until about a week ago . And that’s the catalyst for the cancellation of seasons .
So weird
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 4:40 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20303 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:20 am to
quote:

Make no mistake, I want football. But if it’s between: playing a few games, having an outbreak, and shutting it down - or not starting, I’d rather not even start.

I don’t want to go through the same “what could’ve been” crap that we went through with March Madness. That was one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had watching sports.

I get that, but this spring/summer is one of the worst feelings I've had PERIOD. And I work in a hospital, I've never had to miss work.

Still can't go to a movie (interestingly enough, they're going to start opening theaters in a week or 2). Couldn't go out to dinner for months. Can't go out for a drink after work. For awhile, couldn't go out of state at all for a vacation.
Can't go to a mall, shopping center or most stores to just walk around and browse- my son the other day went to Best Buy, at the entrance they asked what he was coming for, and for how long he'd be there.
I have to wear a mask the full 12 hrs I'm at work, and whenever I get out of the car to get anything outside my home.
My son, niece and nephew are enrolled in different colleges; one is Ivy League and another is Big 10. They're all currently "attending" from their bedrooms at their parents' homes via laptop. That's not the social experience we had at that age, and not what anyone intended when they applied.

At this point, the virus has spread out in society, and little will change for awhile. We can either start returning to normal life, or continue to isolate at home. I'm beyond ready to get back to living.

I don't expect to be able to attend games, or to tailgate. I think it's still a bit too soon this year. But the teams can return to campus, practice, and then play in empty stadiums safely, as long as you monitor them as they said they would, and we can at least watch them on TV.

It's a voluntary decision made by men paid millions to coach and run football, and by young guys in exceptional health and receiving scholarships to do so. It's their choice to do so, as they've made very clear.

If we don't get things restarted soon, this sports entertainment bubble will burst.
ESPN won't pay out hundreds of millions of dollars to televise a coach's speech. LSU, Alabama etc aren't giving scholarships out to kids just to look muscular. The pro teams aren't paying guys just to work out and talk.
We aren't maintaining ESPN subscriptions to watch Stephen A Smith yell into a microphone.
It's all for entertainment, for having games played.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25475 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:28 am to
They had a cardiologist on the radio in BHam yesterday who basically said the B1G and Pac12 got fed a load of BS by there Dr’s. He said Myocarditis is rare and even if you get it having a severe case is rare and its very treatable
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4445 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:50 am to
Alluded
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:00 am to
They were just looking for any excuse to shut down. They were more worried about players unionizing or having to be given more rights while playing in a pandemic. They’d rather lose one season to try to protect the current model than see the entire model change.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:56 am to
Their decision to cancel made a long time ago. playing would have made some governors look like fools.

The players should be free to transfer.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
11x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
46547 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (since 1984) says something about covid:
“tHaT aiNt tRuE! yOu dOnT kNoW wHaT u tALkin bOuT!”

A coach for A1abana says something about covid:
“wOw, gReAt iNfOrMaTioN dOcToR.”



I edited this post because I don’t want to get banned. In my original post, I called you a liberal as well as a pussy, but now I realize I should try to keep myself in check.
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 9:22 am
Posted by bama3416
Member since Aug 2013
71 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 10:40 am to
Pretty clever
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1032 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Make no mistake, I want football. But if it’s between: playing a few games, having an outbreak, and shutting it down - or not starting, I’d rather not even start.

Your logic is extremely flawed. How about playing a few games and nothing happens and so we continue to play out the season. The thing is, you don't know until you try.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5680 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:53 pm to
72 downvotes in this thread alone. You're really hated by everyone on this board. Lol.
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 12:54 pm
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