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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:17 pm to John Maplethorpe
yeah teams everywhere are trying to imitate Mike Leach. 
all the big schools are hiring Mike Leach disciples now.
do you realize how dumb this sounds, mr maplethorpe?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:22 pm to Festus
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And how often do you think they say "johnny football" in any given day?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:23 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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do you realize how dumb this sounds, mr maplethorpe?
Yes, what you said, which is not what I said, your straw man, is dumb.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:23 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:24 pm to Kryp
This thread is 20 years too late. The spread started at small schools that lacked the talent to play power football and then spread through the western conferences. It hasn't served BifXII or PACXII teams well, imo. It de-emphasizes defense and allows teams like a Baylor or WVU to win shootouts against what should be superior teams and also hampers teams when they face opponents who can shut down the spread and run the ball themselves.
I take nothing away from aTm and their win vs Bama. Sumlin seems like a top notch coach and Manziel is phenomenal, but they caught Bama in the 5th game of our toughest 5 game stretch of the year. We were tired, beaten, and just slow. Take away the Bama game and aTm would be a 3 loss team with no real quality wins to speak of.
The spread is not a new revolution....it's a crutch for teams that can't play power football. Defense and a power run game still wins championships.
I take nothing away from aTm and their win vs Bama. Sumlin seems like a top notch coach and Manziel is phenomenal, but they caught Bama in the 5th game of our toughest 5 game stretch of the year. We were tired, beaten, and just slow. Take away the Bama game and aTm would be a 3 loss team with no real quality wins to speak of.
The spread is not a new revolution....it's a crutch for teams that can't play power football. Defense and a power run game still wins championships.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:24 pm to John Maplethorpe
that's what State ran the first three years under Mullen. We ran it with a 5'2" QB his first year that gashed LSU and damn near beat them. We ended with a 5-7 season with the #1 SOS in the NCAA. We were one inch short against LSU from going to a bowl his first year. The "Relf Coast Offense" ran in years two and three showed that a spread option offense can get you to a 9 and seven win season even with a complete dufus on the field. This year we got away from it and it has hurt us tremendously, especially when we very well may have the best option QB in State history playing second string.
The NFL will definitely use it more and you will see more and more universities go to it because it is fun as hell to watch-when executed correctly. And yes, aTm is about the best I have seen at running it
The NFL will definitely use it more and you will see more and more universities go to it because it is fun as hell to watch-when executed correctly. And yes, aTm is about the best I have seen at running it
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:26 pm to Crimson06
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Maybe at places that are talent deficient, but not at places like bama.
How did that work for any of us this year sans Florida and LSU
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:27 pm to MaroonNation
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:29 pm to John Maplethorpe
Not a chance aggie
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:30 pm to John Maplethorpe
I hear everybody is going to the wishbone
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:31 pm to cas4t
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Defense and a power run game still wins championships.
These things are not mutually exclusive with the spread.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:31 pm to John Maplethorpe
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Oregon is the only "power" team running the spread in the PAC but they don't have top shelf defensive talent.
Oregon will never recruit defense. Their philosophy is the best way to win wil always be to outscore. If the slowest kid on offense is a 4.7, and they are conditioned, then this philosophy usually works.
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:34 pm to John Maplethorpe
I beg to differ Johnathan. You're a silly bastid Johnathan........
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This was said 15 years ago.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:37 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Everyone will be running the spread within 7 years
What a retarded thing to say.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:40 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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This was said 15 years ago.
No it wasn't. The Leach/Holgersen/Sumlin spread is a different animal because you can run out of it.
You watch and I'll bet you half the SEC job openings go with spread offensive coordinators.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:43 pm to John Maplethorpe
Might be the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. Congrats, that's an accomplishment. Any chance this is your work?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:50 pm to John Maplethorpe
Maple,
I have much respect for you and enjoy your posts. However, do not let what Johnny did this year conjure up dozens of JFF all over the landscape.
Johnny is a once in a decade or two player. Johnny is truly gifted and was the main reason for your success this season.
The spread has been run in the SEC in various formats for many years with varied success .
Yes, some teams will try and find a Johnny but to no avail.
I suspect within five years, A&M will be looking a lot like Bama and LSU as far as player size, quality, and type of offense run.
The spread is a gimick offense in my opinion.
True, it took Bama one quarter to figure out Johnny and unfortunately, was out of the game by then.
I suspect next year at Kyle, Bama will play like it did the other 3 qtrs.
we all know 21-0 Aggie end of first but the 2,3rd and 4th qtr, score 25-8 Bama. If you give Bama 10 tries at the 6 to make a TD, they make it 60% of time. So, score last three Qtr's would have been 32-8 Bama.
The spread gets figured out quickly, that's why it won't take in the SEC
I have much respect for you and enjoy your posts. However, do not let what Johnny did this year conjure up dozens of JFF all over the landscape.
Johnny is a once in a decade or two player. Johnny is truly gifted and was the main reason for your success this season.
The spread has been run in the SEC in various formats for many years with varied success .
Yes, some teams will try and find a Johnny but to no avail.
I suspect within five years, A&M will be looking a lot like Bama and LSU as far as player size, quality, and type of offense run.
The spread is a gimick offense in my opinion.
True, it took Bama one quarter to figure out Johnny and unfortunately, was out of the game by then.
I suspect next year at Kyle, Bama will play like it did the other 3 qtrs.
we all know 21-0 Aggie end of first but the 2,3rd and 4th qtr, score 25-8 Bama. If you give Bama 10 tries at the 6 to make a TD, they make it 60% of time. So, score last three Qtr's would have been 32-8 Bama.
The spread gets figured out quickly, that's why it won't take in the SEC
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:59 pm to bamaoldtimer
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The spread gets figured out quickly, that's why it won't take in the SEC
Not really. It was the up tempo factor that adds to the proficiency that aTm, and OM to a lesser degree, run. Your fans were winded trying to disrupt it. You should have heard it on TV, it was very evident, becasue they couldn't catch their breath in between Aggie snaps and I know your players couldn't either. SEC defenses are not built to defend the up tempo aspect of it. They are too large.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 1:07 pm
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