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re: ESPN's best college football teams of the decade (by conference)

Posted on 7/31/10 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 12:29 pm to
I don't think anyone's ever questioned 05>07. Our 07 team really wasn't that good.


05 has recently made a push > 06 for me though.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 12:31 pm to
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Six months after me, bud.

Ahh. Gotcha now.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 12:38 pm to
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2004 AU


Averaged winning 32-11, just as 2009 Bama did. The main difference, was Au 04, played 8 games against teams with a .500 or losing record. Where Bama played 10 teams that went to bowls, and defeated back to back undefeated teams, with top 3 defenses. Other than that, yeah.. 04 Au should be around 5 or 6 on the list.
Posted by beasaint
Columbus, MS
Member since Jan 2007
128 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 12:38 pm to
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Otherwise AU was up double digits on every single opponent all year including the Sugar bowl by the end of the 3rd quarter.

REALLY? Did you forget the last game of that year? You know the one where you blew out Alabama...by 8 The best teams bring home hardware, not what ifs or what should have beens.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 1:04 pm to
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Averaged winning 32-11, just as 2009 Bama did. The main difference, was Au 04, played 8 games against teams with a .500 or losing record. Where Bama played 10 teams that went to bowls, and defeated back to back undefeated teams, with top 3 defenses. Other than that, yeah.. 04 Au should be around 5 or 6 on the list.


Those stats confirm why Saban is miles better than Tuberville as a HC. '04 Auburn had significantly more talent than us (Jason Campbell, Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Devin Aroshmadu, Courtney Taylor, Ben Grubbs, Marcus McNeill, Carlos Rogers, Jay Ratliff, etc...), played an easier schedule, had superior QB play and still couldn't outscore teams by a larger margin. I mean, how is it possible to score only 32 PPG with so much talent on offense? It boggles the mind.
This post was edited on 7/31/10 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 1:18 pm to
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Otherwise AU was up double digits on every single opponent all year including the Sugar bowl by the end of the 3rd quarter.
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REALLY? Did you forget the last game of that year?


Did your dumbass forget AU was up 21-6 until the last minute of the game after scoring 3 tds on the first 3 drives of the third quarter to put the game away.

So my statement is still true and you are still a dumbass.

2004 AU 30, 2009 Bama 3.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 1:20 pm to
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Tiger n Miami AU83


trying too hard
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92707 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 1:21 pm to
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attheua


TnM is right.
Posted by fishcraze
T(itle) Town
Member since Oct 2009
1813 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 1:22 pm to
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There is only one legitimate way to rank past teams and that is based on what they accomplished. To argue that a team from one year would beat a team from some other year is meaningless because it can never be proven or justified to any degree of certainty. Logic breaks down under such speculation because WE WILL NEVER KNOW. You can argue until your blue in the face that 08 UF would beat 09 Bama or 03 LSU would beat 09 Bama, but the simple fact is, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW. Since you will never know which team is better in a head to head match up, it is absolutely worthless to argue about. There will always be a legitimate counter-argument and there will NEVER be ANY certainty.

What we do know for certain is what those teams accomplished in the years that they performed. Those are facts that cannot be disputed. If we are arguing from facts, then you can not dispute that Alabama is the most accomplished SEC team of the decade.

If you are going to argue from "what if's" and "they would's", I personally don't have time for it. It's meaningless and only comes across as blind homerism. If you want to debate facts, I'm all for it but some of the posters in this thread are not arguing from facts, they are arguing from speculation. You can speculate all you want, but the fact will still remain that this Alabama team was the most accomplished SEC team of the last decade and, therefore, the BEST.



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Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 7/31/10 at 3:12 pm to
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09 Florida was missing several notable cogs compared to their 2008 bretheren. Percy Harvin was a huge one, but others included leading receiver Louis Coleman and a few linemen from both sides


True they lost some key offensive playmakers but they returned their whole D if I'm not mistaken. We still dominated them. That list is based off accomplishment for that particular year and 09 Bama certainly accomplished more than any other team on that list.

As far as who would win on the field, that would be a difficult choice for me because 03 LSU, 04 AU, 08 UF, and 09 Bama were all great teams.
Posted by mrau92me
Member since Jul 2010
4 posts
Posted on 8/1/10 at 12:43 am to
Well said.
Posted by mrau92me
Member since Jul 2010
4 posts
Posted on 8/1/10 at 1:01 am to
I agree with the accomplishments thing. 04AU and 09AL both went undefeated in the games that they played. That was their accomplishment period. Being voted where they ended up was not their accomplishment. The problem is with the NCAA not having a playoff. Having people vote a team into a particular game is not that team's accomplishment. It's someone else's opinion and speculation. 09AL getting voted into position to be in the national title game doesn't mean they were any better than 04AU's team (we'll never know). For example, in a scenario of USC going convincingly undefeated in '09, Bama would have been left out cuz of the poor showing against AU and the fact that UF had already been "beaten" by Ark at home.
Posted by secftw
FL
Member since Jan 2010
3311 posts
Posted on 8/1/10 at 4:54 am to
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SEC list should be

1. '08 Florida
2. '03 LSU
3. '09 Alabama
4. '04 Auburn
5. '01 Florida
6. '06 LSU
7. '07 LSU
8. '09 Florida
9. '06 Florida
10.'02 Georgia



One of these years you'll learn to accept that McElroy was part of the reason why Bama won an NC last season. Until then, stifle your hatred long enough to use some logic for fricks sake.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70186 posts
Posted on 8/1/10 at 9:05 am to
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One of these years you'll learn to accept that McElroy was part of the reason why Bama won an NC last season. Until then, stifle your hatred long enough to use some logic for fricks sake.


It's no use. The guy has a boner for high scoring offenses. If the offense is not high scoring then the QB must suck.
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