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re: ESPN running with Cam/Cecil phone conversations

Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:27 am to
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:27 am to
Folks, there is no way this impacts the end of this season. Auburn is going to continue playing Newton, so they are going to win the last two games and go to the SECCG. No investigation will be NEAR complete by then, and there would still be the issue of hearings, penalty meetings, a revealation of the penalties, Auburn's appeal, etc before any games could conceivably be vacated.


Auburn is going to the SECCG, and probably on to play for the NC...
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7660 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:31 am to
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Folks, there is no way this impacts the end of this season. Auburn is going to continue playing Newton, so they are going to win the last two games and go to the SECCG. No investigation will be NEAR complete by then, and there would still be the issue of hearings, penalty meetings, a revealation of the penalties, Auburn's appeal, etc before any games could conceivably be vacated.


Auburn is going to the SECCG, and probably on to play for the NC...


I think you are likely to be correct. But if in the end Auburn is found guilty, it will have been a shame for the effect on LSU, Arkansas and Mississippi State. I would hope, if the charges are substantiated (and I actually would rather that they not be true), that there would be no mercy for Auburn short of the out and out death penalty ( and the no death penalty is not for Auburn's sake as much the the conference's sake).
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53691 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:32 am to
Well wouldn't bama losing another game to auburn count the same way?
Posted by RammerJammerBammer
Land of the Tennessee Titans
Member since Sep 2009
9153 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:34 am to
not if newton doesnt play
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79584 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:37 am to
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I think you are likely to be correct. But if in the end Auburn is found guilty, it will have been a shame for the effect on LSU, Arkansas and Mississippi State.


If this is indeed how it plays out and LSU wins out, just imagine the hate LSU fans will forever have toward Auburn.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
18778 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:41 am to
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No way the SEC and Auburn have sat on this and played Newton if this is true. I don't buy it.

I buy it because you wouldn't have won a SEC game without him.
Posted by PPBeastMode
Member since Sep 2010
2403 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:50 am to
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There will not be a money trail because churches can get away with little or no record keeping. Also no one should gloat about this. It hurts the whole SEC.

why not? do you think his father would carry $200,000 in cash around his house? of course he will put it in the bank
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:59 am to
this is huge for LSU, just sayin.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 8:59 am to
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do you think his father would carry $200,000 in cash around his house? of course he will put it in the bank


I don't think so. I think the money men who put it together for him would advise against that, and maybe even suggest some avenues for hiding it.

Even in the Means case, I don't think they ever conclusively showed that the money came from Logan Young, and the evidence Lang received it was large cash purchases.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43275 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:23 am to
No tapes of the conversations? Without documentation, this is more he said/she said?

Two recruiters for Ms State? Only coaches can "recruit" for colleges right? Which Ms State coaches was it then? If it wasn't coaches, isn't Ms State in some trouble here?

Posted by alga
Florida
Member since Dec 2007
133 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:24 am to
Three days before all this Cam thing started my mom(big bama fan)called me and asked if I had heard anything about it. She knows I keep up on sports news. Told her I had not seen anything on it and asked her how she heard it said her cousion told her and I asked how she knew about it said her daughter works in Sabans office and told her. I have always known she knew someone that works in Sabans office.
Posted by LSUNO
the NO
Member since Jan 2007
866 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:28 am to
Tommy Tuberville no doubt has a shite eating grin on.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65277 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:29 am to
This is just getting awesome.
Posted by PPBeastMode
Member since Sep 2010
2403 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:35 am to
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No tapes of the conversations? Without documentation, this is more he said/she said?

Two recruiters for Ms State? Only coaches can "recruit" for colleges right? Which Ms State coaches was it then? If it wasn't coaches, isn't Ms State in some trouble here?

Miss State will not be punish for this, I don't think they would try to give out evidences that will hurt them
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43275 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:44 am to
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Miss State will not be punish for this, I don't think they would try to give out evidences that will hurt them


If they had people other than coaches out recruiting for them, they will be in trouble.
Posted by Slut Hog
Member since May 2010
1092 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:45 am to
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If they had people other than coaches out recruiting for them, they will be in trouble.


Then it must be coaches making the allegations.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43275 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:47 am to
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Then it must be coaches making the allegations.


Exactly. So why is John Bond and Kenny Rogers the two Ms State alums on the record as having been involved in the recruiting process?
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:50 am to
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Folks, there is no way this impacts the end of this season. Auburn is going to continue playing Newton, so they are going to win the last two games and go to the SECCG. No investigation will be NEAR complete by then, and there would still be the issue of hearings, penalty meetings, a revealation of the penalties, Auburn's appeal, etc before any games could conceivably be vacated.


Auburn is going to the SECCG, and probably on to play for the NC...


Absolutely the NCAA wont finish its investigation this season. But that doesnt necessarily mean Auburn will let him play if they think or know they will have to vacate more wins, because they think or know he will be declared ineligible. Also the NCAA(and maybe the SEC?) can still rule him ineligible before they finish the entire investigation.
Posted by bcwarb
Member since Jun 2008
639 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:51 am to
HA!!! Where are all the barners now with their conspiracy theories and witch hunts??
Posted by mike76tiger
Northshore, LA
Member since Aug 2010
376 posts
Posted on 11/10/10 at 9:54 am to
Consider this...

The NCAA moves so slow you wonder if this could be done before SEC champ, probably not. However, if Auburn goes on to win SEC, then beat TCU or Oregon in BCS, then what a mess!! So they blow out TCU 35-10 and then NCAA says later in July 2011, "whoops, we're sorry AU QB is ineligible so we're sorry that Oregon or TCU team that got the mess beat out of them are National Champs now. I mean do you even hold a victory parade for that (if you're a TCU fan)!! What a mess they got to handle this fast. Call in the feds, too much money involved.
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 10:00 am
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