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re: ESPN: Did the SEC force them to turn-around their anti-Jesus stance?
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:06 am to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:06 am to TeLeFaWx
quote:Not a big deal to me, but you are telling a Catholic Hospital that connecting Jesus with Christmas (something that is accurate and factual) is potentially offensive enough to some that you won't take their money for ad space.
And it really isn't that big of a deal that they removed it either...
By itself, it isn't a big deal, but the underlying condition of an overly sensitive population will likely become a big deal soon.
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:08 am to TeLeFaWx
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And it really isn't that big of a deal that they removed it either...
You're right. Anyone who gets too up in arms about it on either side needs to get a life. I personally find it petty but it won't keep me from watching ESPN, or any other channel that has the same policy as long as they have programming I like.
Most people will probably forget about it by tomorrow.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:09 am to KaiserSoze99
frick any and all of you who contributed to making me agree with Fawxie.
Other than that, great thread. Would read again.
Other than that, great thread. Would read again.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:11 am to WDE24
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Not a big deal to me, but you are telling a Catholic Hospital that connecting Jesus with Christmas (something that is accurate and factual) is potentially offensive enough to some that you won't take their money for ad space.
By itself, it isn't a big deal, but the underlying condition of an overly sensitive population will likely become a big deal soon.
Now, why you gotta say that when I gave you props earlier.
ESPN is a business. Like ALL businesses, ESPN exists SOLELY to make MONEY!!!
Ad makes them make LESS money? -- No workie workie.
HUGE group of Christian zealots get offended by ESPN's decision? ESPN sees potential loss of viewers who = money? -- ESPN changes position.
Key factor in both decisions above?
M---O---N---E---Y!!!
If saying PRAISE ALLAH will make ESPN more money, ESPN will say PRAISE ALLAH!!!
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:12 am to WDE24
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but you are telling a Catholic Hospital that connecting Jesus with Christmas (something that is accurate and factual)
Well, if you really want to get into it, "Christmas" was around long before christianity in the form of pagan and other celebrations centered around the winter solstice. It was just adopted and used by the church later.
But, that's another discussion. ;)
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:14 am to Teague
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Well, if you really want to get into it, "Christmas" was around long before christianity in the form of pagan and other holidays centered around the winter solstice. It was just adopted and used by the church later.
But, that's another discussion. ;)
frick CONSTANTINE!!!
GOT DAMN!!! An educated Gump???
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:14 am to scrooster
No, Bill O'riely had it on his show 2 days in a row, spotlighting their ignorance.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:15 am to KaiserSoze99
I still shop at walmarks.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:16 am to WDE24
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Not a big deal to me, but you are telling a Catholic Hospital that connecting Jesus with Christmas (something that is accurate and factual) is potentially offensive enough to some that you won't take their money for ad space.
To be fair, there are lots of other religions it can be argued that the legend of the birth of Christ was just piecemealed off of. The three wise men, Mary, etc... I mean I'm not sure you can explicitly say that that part is factual.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:16 am to KaiserSoze99
quote:Agreed.
ESPN is a business. Like ALL businesses, ESPN exists SOLELY to make MONEY!!!
quote:I agree.
Ad makes them make LESS money. No workie workie. HUGE group of Christian zealots get offended by ESPN's decision, ESPN sees potential loss of viewers who = money. ESPN changes position.
Key factor in both decisions above?
M---O---N---E---Y!!!
My point is more about society being so overly sensitive as to even make this an issue for ESPN.
The ad was innocuous, but because of where we are as a society ESPN was concerned someone somewhere might be offended by it. In worrying so much about those who might be offended by something so innocuous, they offended a large group of viewers.
The questions are, why did ESPN think showing the ad would offend people and why didn't they understand that not showing it would offend people?
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:17 am to Crimson Legend
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frick any and all of you who contributed to making me agree with Fawxie.
Like my Iron Bowl upset prediction, I am never wrong.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:18 am to TeLeFaWx
quote:That wasn't part of the ad. What I was saying was factual is that Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. Whether the Jesus who is/was being celebrated actually existed or the stories regarding his birth that are commonly told are factual wasn't the point.
To be fair, there are lots of other religions it can be argued that the legend of the birth of Christ was just piecemealed off of. The three wise men, Mary, etc... I mean I'm not sure you can explicitly say that that part is factual.
The point was Jesus and Christmas are by definition connected to one another.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:19 am to TeLeFaWx
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Like my Iron Bowl upset prediction, I am never wrong.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:20 am to Teague
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I still shop at walmarks.
Made me laugh.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:20 am to TeLeFaWx
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Like my Iron Bowl upset prediction, I am never wrong.
I guess aTm did beat UA this year.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:21 am to Teague
quote:It wasn't Christmas though.
Well, if you really want to get into it, "Christmas" was around long before christianity in the form of pagan and other celebrations centered around the winter solstice.
quote:And called Christmas.
It was just adopted and used by the church later.
quote:I'm not here to argue for or against the accuracy or truth of Christianity. Like you said, that is another discussion for another time.
But, that's another discussion. ;)
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:21 am to NBamaAlum
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I guess aTm did beat UA this year.
My prediction was that Alabama would need at least 45 if they stood any chance of winning. Somehow they did. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:21 am to WDE24
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The questions are, why did ESPN think showing the ad would offend people and why didn't they understand that not showing it would offend people?
Probably for the same reason they thought the Longhorn Network was a good idea.
Posted on 12/17/13 at 12:11 pm to WDE24
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The questions are, why did ESPN think showing the ad would offend people and why didn't they understand that not showing it would offend people?
AH HA!!!
And the answer is .... ????
Posted on 12/17/13 at 12:36 pm to scrooster
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AH HA!!!
And the answer is .... ????
The answer is, that as Christians are the poorest citizens, and receive a disproportionately large amount of welfare probably in the name of Jesus, that they are just less educated and tend to be less intelligent. That's why they knew it would offend them to not show it. Scrooster can agree, I would guess.
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