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re: Emerging SEC RBs in 2019

Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:40 am to
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@ LSU : 6 for 83 (13.8)


He definitely BuFued (Butt fricked) us hard in TS last year.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:43 am to
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Clyde Edwards-Helaire will probably put up a quiet 1,000 yd season


I can see him putting up 1,000 total yards from scrimmage from both rushing & receiving but I seriously doubt that he gets 1,000 on the ground alone.
Posted by DawgRff
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:44 am to
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UGA
The return of Zeus


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NashvilleTiger09

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UGA fans, is White ready to go? He certainly looks the part.

No, He is taking part in no contact drills. Probable won't see significant action until the ladder part of the season.

Brian Herrien has bulked up and is looking impressive in spring practice much like Holyfield last year. He is the #2 guy behind a healthy Swift

Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:45 am to
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Clyde Edwards-Helaire will probably put up a quiet 1,000 yd season.

I don’t see him getting enough touches to get to 1000 yards
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:51 am to
Exactly. Too many carries to go around for Edwards-Helaire to get 1,000 solely on the ground. He will most likely be the go to back on 3rd down & obvious passing situations due to his experience in pass pro which is why I feel he can get to 1,000 with both rushing & receiving combined. It finally appears that swing passes, screens & checkdowns will be focal part of the LSU offense which means Clyde will get his fair share of touches in that form.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:53 am to
Even with receiving I dont see CEH at 1000 yards, he might come close though.

We just have some big time talent coming in, and while CEH might be a great receiving option, Emery can do the same, and potentially better (and is a much better runner).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:56 am to
LSUs backs were solid players but they weren't very scary at all. I gotta think Emery is going to take that lead back job pretty quickly and let the others fall into specific roles.
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:57 am to
This. If Emery is the prospect he’s touted to be, he’s taking the starting job early
Posted by DawgRff
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:58 am to
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Why'd this baw get a C-Section?

Health issues and surgeries as a young kid.
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Posted by jvilletiger25
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:59 am to
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DJ Williams looks like he might be the most gifted/natural RB on the roster


Dude is going to be a stud
Posted by Maravich
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:04 am to
Emery
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:08 am to
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Even with receiving I dont see CEH at 1000 yards


I see the rushing yard splits being like this:

CEH: 600 yards
Emery: 800 yards
Davis: 300 yards

Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:09 am to
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We just have some big time talent coming in, and while CEH might be a great receiving option, Emery can do the same, and potentially better (and is a much better runner).


Emery won't have the experience in pass pro especially early in the season. Clyde's experience will garner him a majority of the snaps on 3rd down & obvious passing situations.

The staff will not put Burrow at risk for injury or turnovers having an inexperienced back picking up blitzes, line stunts or chipping. As the season progresses, Emery may get more snaps there but that will be based on his ability to grasp his responsibilities in pass pro.

There is so much more involved than just having good receiving hands & being able to make people miss in space when it comes to being a good receiving back. Fans always seem to forget that backs have other responsibilities as well which takes time in the film room to learn. CEH already has that experience while Emery doesn't.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 11:05 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:28 am to
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LSUs backs were solid players but they weren't very scary at all. I gotta think Emery is going to take that lead back job pretty quickly and let the others fall into specific roles.



yeah by the time the freshmen get to campus, CEH is going to be #3 or 4 on the depth chart IMO. Lanard Fournette will also get touches and hasn't been mentioned yet. I think LSU RBs may be much like Alabama's have been the last couple years
Posted by tWildcat
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:30 am to
Kavosiey Smoke

Only thing that will get annoying is hearing Eric Church say “Drink a little drink, smoke a little smoke” each time he comes on the field.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:32 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:33 am to
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the experience in pass pro especially early in the season


This is just an assumption he cant pass protect, doesnt mean he cant.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:37 am to
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CEH is going to be #3 or 4 on the depth chart IMO.


If Joe Brady truly brings the Saints offensive philosophy along with him, there will be no such thing. Offensive personnel groupings will be based off experience as well as down & distance.

Emery is obviously the more talented back but CEH is more seasoned. Until Emery shows that he knows his responsibilities in pass pro, I full expect CEH to those crucial snaps especially on 3rd downs early in the season.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:51 am to
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This is just an assumption he cant pass protect, doesnt mean he cant.


It's not as simple as just being able to make a block. It's also about being able to know your responsibilities & read presnap where a blitz or line stunt is coming from.

The successful receiving backs the Saints have had over the years could not only catch the ball the ball well, they were outstanding in pass pro. Reggie Bush, Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram & now Alvin Kamara. Sean Payton has always placed a high value on that aspect of a RBs game.

Also, anyone who has watched the Saints offense closely over the years under Payton, knows that #1 RB on the depth chart doesn't necessarily get the first offensive snaps to start a game. The #1 back may not even get the majority of the touches in a game either. It's all based off matchups vs the defense.

If Brady brings that same philosophy to the Tigers offense then CEH's experience will be highly valued especially early on in the season. Emery will have to prove he can handle that mental aspect of the offense. The mental ability is just as important as the physical ability. CEH has a leg up there simply on experience alone.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:56 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:13 pm to
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If Joe Brady truly brings the Saints offensive philosophy along with him, there will be no such thing. Offensive personnel groupings will be based off experience as well as down & distance.

Emery is obviously the more talented back but CEH is more seasoned. Until Emery shows that he knows his responsibilities in pass pro, I full expect CEH to those crucial snaps especially on 3rd downs early in the season.


I mean I don't disagree with you, but that also kind of reiterates why I don't think CEH will have enough touches to get 1000 yards period, much less 1000 rushing. LSU will have 4 backs (Curry, Fournette, Edwards-Hellaire, and Davis-Price) sharing the load. And if you want to use the Saints as an example, with only 3 guys sharing the load, none of them averaged more than 12 carries a game last year.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:31 pm to
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why I don't think CEH will have enough touches to get 1000 yards period


I think you are grossly underestimating CEH's usage this upcoming season on 3rd down & obvious passing situations.

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And if you want to use the Saints as an example, with only 3 guys sharing the load, none of them averaged more than 12 carries a game last year.


I'm not disagreeing with you there. I'm saying his chances for 1,000 yards rushing & receiving combined are way higher than just 1,000 yard solely on the ground. I don't believe he will reach 1,000 rushing yards either.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 12:35 pm
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