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Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:46 am to
Out of curiosity, where do you stand on the removal of confederate statues from around the country?...I await your reply.

I'm still waiting.
Posted by OmegaMan
Mobile, AL
Member since Sep 2018
984 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:46 am to
jimdog,
Only a classless sidewalk alumni who doesn’t understand anything about the university they root for posts something like that. Pat Dye is a very respected individual. Posts like this are why Auburn wants nothing to do with the unwashed Alabama and Georgia fan masses of the world.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:50 am to
All three sentences in your post are literally INCORRECT!... on the 100%
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Out of curiosity, where do you stand on the removal of confederate statues from around the country?...I await your reply.

I'm still waiting.


Depends on where they were placed and why. You can not rewrite history by tearing down statues. I have visited Gettysburg and Chickamauga Battlefields and have done staff rides at both. History has a good and dark side and both need to be studied. Where do you stand with it ?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Out of curiosity, where do you stand on the removal of confederate statues from around the country?...I await your reply.

I'm still waiting.
What's the matter, SkyKing?...cat got your tongue?
Posted by GlossuRabban
West Cobb
Member since Apr 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:08 am to
He just answered above you
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:13 am to
I agree with your assessment, but don't understand how you bemoan Alabama honoring part of their basketball history because of an individual's transgression unrelated to the sport.
Posted by OmegaMan
Mobile, AL
Member since Sep 2018
984 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:19 am to
Damn, someone rustled CoachCrisp’s jimmies this morning. ??
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:23 am to
Son, I don't wear jimmies...I go commando!
And my britches are totally fireproof!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I agree with your assessment, but don't understand how you bemoan Alabama honoring part of their basketball history because of an individual's transgression unrelated to the sport.




You are not that ignorant or blind. The difference is most of the Confederate monuments are honoring soldiers who fought for their land and died for what they thought was a cause. Most were just tools of the elitist and never were capable of owning slaves. They still fell on the wrong side of morality, that is why you do not honor their cause but recognize their sacrifice. Honoring Wimp Sanderson is not even close to being the same. Remember, Sandusky was part of a staff that brought great fame to Penn St.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3319 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:31 am to
Was Durkin responsible for the death in that he watched the kid and made him work out till he died or responsible in “the buck stops here” kind of way as a HC?
Posted by OmegaMan
Mobile, AL
Member since Sep 2018
984 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:46 am to
Honestly, coaches have no control over whether someone has an unknown congenital heart defect. You can drop dead at any moment from one of those at any point in life. People can live decades with those before they suddenly die.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:51 am to
quote:

You are not that ignorant or blind. The difference is most of the Confederate monuments are honoring soldiers who fought for their land and died for what they thought was a cause. Most were just tools of the elitist and never were capable of owning slaves. They still fell on the wrong side of morality, that is why you do not honor their cause but recognize their sacrifice. Honoring Wimp Sanderson is not even close to being the same. Remember, Sandusky was part of a staff that brought great fame to Penn St.


I thought you said that you were against removal because you didn't want to erase history. Now you say the men, themselves were noble and "fought for their land and died for what they thought was a cause." These a two entirely different reasons.
Also, do you believe that Penn St. accomplishments during Sandusky's time there should be expunged?

"They still fell on the wrong side of morality,
quote:

that is why you do not honor their cause but recognize their sacrifice."
Isn't that exactly what Alabama was doing?
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Honestly, coaches have no control over whether someone has an unknown congenital heart defect. You can drop dead at any moment from one of those at any point in life. People can live decades with those before they suddenly die.
Correct! Also, if you check, I think you'll find that an assistant was conducting the drills...but fools are gonna still call the HC a murderer.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:02 am to
quote:

I thought you said that you were against removal because you didn't want to erase history. Now you say the men, themselves were noble and "fought for their land and died for what they thought was a cause." These a two entirely different reasons.
Also, do you believe that Penn St. accomplishments during Sandusky's time there should be expunged?


Didn't claim they were noble, just claimed some thought they were fighting for a noble cause (protection of their land). I'm sure there were German soldiers that thought they were fighting for the same. History shows that the people on the lowest rung of society are often used to fight and die for a cause the elitist think it is worth them dying for.

No Penn St should not expunge the accomplishments of the players who fought for their school. Just anything that has Sandusky's physical name associated with it should not be honored. Same for Wimp. The difference is Wimp story was well known and very public at the time he was being honored. P.S did the players wear plaid ?
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:28 am to
The era is known as the Wimp Sanderson era, and Wimp wore plaid, hence, the era is identified by the plaid pattern...just ask the media and players who were there. It had NOTHING to do with him slapping his sec/GF, but ALL to do with the outstanding time in Alabama basketball history!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:39 am to
quote:

The era is known as the Wimp Sanderson era, and Wimp wore plaid, hence, the era is identified by the plaid pattern...just ask the media and players who were there. It had NOTHING to do with him slapping his sec/GF, but ALL to do with the outstanding time in Alabama basketball history!



You are fooling yourself if you believe that, which I do not think any sane individual would. Wimp was bigger than the program, which is why he kept his job after he beat his GF.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

just another example of how a blatant lie gets told for being the truth. I'd suggest folks READ the findings of the Maryland AD on the matter, then form an opinion...however,I suspect that the people on this thread don't really want to know the truth..they'd rather believe what they WANT to believe.



they are trolling fyi - once you respond (or worse make a response thread) you have let everyone know it gets to you and thus have already lost.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:09 pm to
Where do you come up with stuff like that?
.........................................................

"TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — Wimp Sanderson, Alabama's most successful basketball coach, quit under pressure Monday following charges he struck his secretary.

Alabama Athletic Director Hootie Ingram said he accepted Sanderson's resignation, "given the present circumstances."

Sanderson, 54, said: "While in no way do I feel this decision is justified or fair--and I'll fight it to my dying day--I have a great deal of respect for the university, and I wish them success."
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:16 pm to
The pressure wasn’t there until it was made public by a lawsuit. They even moved her to another position within the University. It was widely known that the school turned a blind eye until they couldn’t . Thus Wimp bigger than the program. Finebaum was talking about it 6 months prior to his firing.
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