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Posted by Bruiser Stone
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:30 pm to
this is some good SEC history whenever somebody decides to write a book
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 6:24 pm to
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The pressure wasn’t there until it was made public by a lawsuit. They even moved her to another position within the University. It was widely known that the school turned a blind eye until they couldn’t . Thus Wimp bigger than the program. Finebaum was talking about it 6 months prior to his firing.


Hell, it was a personal problem until she pursued a lawsuit. She didn't file any charges against him, either through the school or legally. With no charges nothing can/should be done unless an assault takes place on school premises. When she filed her suit, then Sanderson was forced to resign.
Also, "Watts had been on paid leave of absence for more than six weeks while a university committee investigated the alleged attack."
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 6:33 pm to
Most domestic violence issues are personal problems. You must be part of that generation that thinks “a little smack across the face” is good for a relationship to keep a woman in her place.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 6:39 pm to
more of your pious indignation..don't you ever get just a little sick of yourself?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 6:49 pm to
Not as long as I can compare myself to people like you. I live a pretty righteous life based on that standard. I guess everything is relative.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:21 pm to
Excuse me. This whole threat was started by an AU fan calling Saban and The U of A enablers of murder, alcoholics and more. So I merely drew a contrast ad it is obvious you guys have no legit response. Pat is a gracious host but in a traditional sense he is in no way comparable to Nick Saban who has spent millions building a Christian centered center on campus for students. Has a remarkable relationship with his family including two adopted kids and has a huge and great support organization for troubled children. Your feeling are bruised and I understand that but you know I'm right.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:44 pm to
Actually the secretary was angry @ Coach Sanderson because he had dropped her and was rumored to be taking his new interest to a ball game on the road. She was married with a family and a grown woman who was as wrong as Wimp. And further she instigated the fight by scratching Wimps face in a rather brutal fashion. He was a terrible looking sight with all the bandages at the televised game that evening. She scratched him and he retaliated by slapping her and both lost their jobs. A sorry affair all the way around.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:58 pm to
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Actually the secretary was angry @ Coach Sanderson because he had dropped her and was rumored to be taking his new interest to a ball game on the road. She was married with a family and a grown woman who was as wrong as Wimp. And further she instigated the fight by scratching Wimps face in a rather brutal fashion. He was a terrible looking sight with all the bandages at the televised game that evening. She scratched him and he retaliated by slapping her and both lost their jobs. A sorry affair all the way around.




We heard all those stories on Finebaum during that time. Both sides were trying to get their versions out. Hootie and the University were the ones with the biggest egg on the faces. They knew about what was going on and tried to cover it up. Everyone thought the School would have learned from this incident, but history repeated itself with Mike Dubose. Alabama was the poster child for win at all cost under the Hootie Ingram era (even after he left).
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 8:00 pm
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 8:37 pm to
But at least the UA coaches were dating grown women who were school secretaries. An Auburn head football coach was rumored to be in a relationship with a student. I choose to believe that was a bad rumor. And it's old. Listen PD did not intentionally run anyone to death, he was sick to his soul. Same as the ex-MD coach is.

But this is no rumor. A girls softball coach at Auburn University was having sex with multiple players. He was an assistant and the son of the male head coach. Who also was aware of it. Worse the AD director knew about it and tried to cover it up. All of them lost their jobs over it LAST YEAR! The ex-AD is now an assistant AD @ Florida! They got away with that for a long time BECAUSE THEY WERE WINNING! Truth is Auburn is guilty of the worst sort of behavior within the last year or so. No one here has mentioned that. But that in and of itself is a horrible indictment. That is no reflection on any AU supporter. That was an indictment of the people running that school and it's athletic dept. But they have cleaned house. However it was widely known which is disturbing. You AU guys need to shut the hell up and support the current people who seem to be cut from a higher cloth. Hell I know they are.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 6:15 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 8:45 pm to
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But this is no rumor. A girls softball coach at Auburn University was having sex with multiple players. He was an assistant and the son of the male head coach. Who also was aware of it. Worse the AD director knew about it and tried to cover it up. All of them lost their jobs over it LAST YEAR! The ex-AD is now an assistant AD @ Florida! They got away with that for a long time BECAUSE THEY WERE WINNING! Truth is Auburn is guilty of the worst sort of behavior within the last year or so. I just don't believe any other school in the SEC would have tolerated that for as long as they did. No one here has mentioned that. But that in and of itself is a horrible indictment. That is no reflection on any AU supporter. That is an indictment of the people running that school and it's athletic dept. But they have cleaned house. However it was widely known which is disturbing. The AD was an old walk on under Pat and is scum as are the father and son softball coaches. You AU guys need to shut the hell up and support the current people who seem to be cut from a higher cloth. Hell I know they are.


No, he got away with it because his father was the HC and was able to keep the Administration out of it. When they found out he was gone. Auburn is as PC as you will find in College Sports, beyond what most most fans want. You seem to be getting a lot of your info from rumors and Bama websites. The truth is much more mundane.


P.S If your rumor about a coach dating his star players GF was about Bowden. Think about it and try to picture that happening in any universe.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:26 pm to
Actually I read about it in the Columbus Ledger. And they detailed the allegations and gave a multiple year timeline. The article spoke of repeated denials by the men involved so everyone @ the school was aware. But given the entrenched old school PTB's and the power of the people we have mentioned it was business as usual.

Auburn is a great place to send your child to school. Safe and friendly campus. Unless they were scholarship girl's softball players.

Lookit, I don't give a damn and I admire the hell out of AU. But they have a rough row to hoe and they have to resort to serious measures at times. And they won't quit. Malzahn actually had a damn good plan for Bama this year and is a better coach than AU fans want to believe. But some of the AU fans/posters are whacky and need to get a grip. Just like Bama guys.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 6:19 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:50 pm to
Nice stories, but that is all they are. The Auburn Administration found out about the relationship after text were shown to them from the player involved.(stolen by other players).He was gone immediately.

The CC story is nice, but you left off that Lowder sat on the BOT. They control what University copyrights that go up for bids, not the alumni president. As far as corruption is concerned take a look at Bear Jr or even Drummond before he died.

As far as Pat Dye is concerned, I know exactly how he ran his program. It was modeled after what Bama had done under Bryant. I knew all the people involved names also. I also knew a couple of former Bama players and compared notes. You would be surprised how closely the two mirrored themselves.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:17 pm to
Once more I don't have an issue with PD. He is an old man who worked hard and made something of himself. What I have called out are idiot AU fans who slander Coach Saban who has gives a guy a chance to get back in the game or at least stay busy and get his mind off the tragedy. He likely did it after talking to Will Muschamp who mentored Durkin. These are fans whose school's playing field is literally named after a coach they worship and who had a player die under close to exact circumstances.

Saban has the same wife and has raised and educated two adopted children, has a nationally acclaimed and supported foundation for troubled kids and a deep religious commitment where he puts his money as an example the huge Catholic Center for students on the UA campus. He likely is the most accomplished off the field coach by far in the SEC and maybe nationally.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 6:06 am
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:28 pm to
Stories? Auburn coaches were not implicated in sexual exploitation of their players? Terry Bowden didn't expose AU paying players and one of the coaches having a ledger book of how much a month? And he and an AU coach and didn't get into an ongoing public feud about paying players @ AU and using pay to motivate? None of the parties at the time denied it nor did they threaten the newspapers who merely quoted each of them. Nobody is innocent. But some Auburn fans are straight lunatics. Hell it ain't easy being sandwiched between Athens and Tuscaloosa and they have done one hell of a job surviving. But some of the fans show wear and tear of the last dozen or so years and it ain't pretty. UGA and UA have some history too having shared some of these same coaches with AU.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 6:11 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:25 pm to
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Stories? Auburn coaches were not implicated in sexual exploitation of their players? Terry Bowden didn't expose AU paying players and one of the coaches having a ledger book of how much a month? And he and a current AU coach and long time recruiting cord @ Georgia under RICHT didn't get into an ongoing public feud about Garner paying players @ AU and using pay to motivate? None of the parties at the time denied it nor did they threaten the newspapers who merely quoted each of them. Nobody is innocent. But some Auburn fans are straight lunatics. Hell it ain't easy being sandwiched between Athens and Tuscaloosa and they have done one hell of a job surviving. But some of the fans show wear and tear of the last dozen or so years and it ain't pretty.



You are kidding yourself if you think you understand the system. It was established by the Bryants of the world and there was never a ledger. The entire system was designed for " Plausible deniability" and was entirely "he said, she said". Your comments only confirm your knowledge is from second hand rumors or a website.
Posted by Paul B Ammer
The Mecca of Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2017
2423 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:58 pm to
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Auburn was the poster child for win at all cost during the Cam Newton era (even after he left).


FIFY Puppet
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25515 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:06 am to
Quality melt.

Times have changed bro. Bear Bryant lucked out that he didn’t get busted at Junction.

Durkin got busted because his subordinates seemed to not give a shite about a dude whose body was shutting down. Saban looks like a POS here. It’s ‘too soon’ for Durkin to be back around students.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:21 am to
Staring down a barrel of a gun title would be more appropriate for some schools.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 5:38 am to
LOL! Directly from the mouth of an ex SEC coach/player @ big name schools inc the 4 biggest ones whose fans post here (very briefly @ one). "The game is the same everywhere" and that ain't no rumor sport.

So just stop it and grow up. If it makes you feel better about your school to point out the flaws of one or two that have made your life miserable then have at the childish nonsense. But brace up and accept that your school has been at the forefront of some awfully nefarious activity that is well documented. Very recently and going back to the fifties. But you already know that. Just let it die and look for the football Bruce Pearl in ability and principle. But know this Ole Miss is done for a long time by trying to seriously cut corners. Freeze is a hell of a coach who thought he was invisible. But Gus Mazahn is a hell of a coach too. Just as good as good as Freeze. Do you want the other part?
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 5:54 am to
Let's give ole Shug his due here too. AU had a hell of a history all the way back to the fifties. As has others. They are all cheating to some degree now but it's not as bad as before. The rule now is "stay in your lane" it seems. But with Kirby, Pruitt. Muschamp, Orgeron, Fisher and the new guys @ the Mississippi schools added to the mix I see tumultuous times ahead.
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