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re: Early reports have Sumlin getting $5M per year.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:02 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:02 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:What the hell are you talking about?
I'm not interested in some liberal drivel about how peopel don't deserve their money, but what do you think was the pure time of college football when we can officially declare that it was pure? The 70s and 80s when players were getting suitcases full of cash?
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:03 pm to TeLeFaWx
I am not criticizing A&M or Sumlin. I don't think it was a bad idea to pay him the money. All I was saying is that A&M will expect better results in the future compared to his 1st two seasons. What I meant by saying he has not "earned" the money is that he has not yet produced the results that are typically expected when being paid that amount of money (i.e., consistent wins over top tier programs, conference championships, etc.).
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:06 pm to Diamondawg
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What the hell are you talking about?
You're saying players salaries ruined baseball, right? Specifically Steinbrenner. College football is heading the same way? I'm not the one making stupid claims, you are.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:06 pm to Vanilla Coke
Maybe Sumlin's earned it in the eyes of the SECr; maybe he hasn't.
Fact of the matter is: His employer thinks he deserves it.
We wanted to get him off of the market & keep him off--no ongoing drivel & speculation of him leaving, season after season.
Best part of the deal:
ESPN
Fact of the matter is: His employer thinks he deserves it.
We wanted to get him off of the market & keep him off--no ongoing drivel & speculation of him leaving, season after season.
Best part of the deal:
quote:
Sources tell ESPN Senior NFL Insider Chris Mortensen that Sumlin has agreed to forsake NFL bids as part of his new contract. The sources said Sumlin's new $5 million-per-year deal guarantees him to coach the Aggies until the school has completed and played in its $450 million renovation of Kyle Field, which is set to open in 2015.
ESPN
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:08 pm to Vanilla Coke
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I am not criticizing A&M or Sumlin. I don't think it was a bad idea to pay him the money. All I was saying is that A&M will expect better results in the future compared to his 1st two seasons. What I meant by saying he has not "earned" the money is that he has not yet produced the results that are typically expected when being paid that amount of money (i.e., consistent wins over top tier programs, conference championships, etc.).
But our amount of money is different than others, so that's all relative.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:10 pm to Vanilla Coke
There are some big bucks flowing down the Brazos River with Briles getting a new contract at $4 mil per year and Sumlin getting $5 mil per year. That's $9 mil per year for two coaches who have 1 conference championship between them. Now that's what I call "betting on the come".
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:12 pm to Big12fan
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There are some big bucks flowing down the Brazos River with Briles getting a new contract at $4 mil per year and Sumlin getting $5 mil per year. That's $9 mil per year for two coaches who have 1 conference championship between them. Now that's what I call "betting on the come".
We can't all pay our coaches $5+ Million/year until 2020 for a combined 2 conference championships in almost 30 years of coaching.
Good luck finding a competent coach to replace Mack Brown. I hear Mike Sherman is about to be looking for a new job.
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:16 pm to TeLeFaWx
I know A&M has a lot of money. Forget the exact dollar amount; that's not the point. He will be paid what the top coaches in college football are being paid. Right now, he has not achieved what the top coaches in college football have achieved (name whatever criteria you would like for this). I don't think any Aggie, or the university itself for that matter, would say they are satisfied with what Sumlin has produced to this point. They are paying him with the expectation of improved results.
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:30 pm to Vanilla Coke
I think getting like the fourth 11+ win season our program has ever had was very satisfying, and we paid him more money after last off season as well. The only problem was it wasn't enough to deter other programs from coming after him. A salary in't just about performance, you're also paying for stability and risk aversion. Do you think if USC didn't offer him all that crazy shite, we would have paid him? No.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:31 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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We can't all pay our coaches $5+ Million/year until 2020 for a combined 2 conference championships in almost 30 years of coaching.
Get back to me when Sumlin wins a natty, like Mack did. As for Sherman, he's a quality coach and person. Sumlin is winning with Sherm's players.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
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False.
lets see...Ford Field in Detroit, dome...430 million= less.
Reliant Field in Houston, dome...352 million=less.
nows the part where you say "that was in 2002 and adjusted for inflation would be over 600 million" and this is where I say your 450 million reno is projected cost and will also end up over 600 million once they fix those 2 decks you all have that have been a disaster waiting to happen for over a decade. now explain to me how you all have so much money yet your campus buildings are in disrepair and your stadium is in such disrepair its a public safety hazard???
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:59 pm to Swoopin
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But when you take the context out of it, he's being overpaid based on real proven value.
Well friend, you can fashion any conclusion you want when you take the context out of something.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 8:05 pm to AUTiger45
$300 million is for guano removal alone.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 8:31 pm to Vanilla Coke
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All I was saying is that A&M will expect better results in the future compared to his 1st two seasons.
Well of course.
Starting in 2015, the expectations will be at least 10 games a year.
We're not paying him to win 8 or 9 games each season. We're paying him to produce at a level consistent with those in his salary bracket.
We're expecting him to win championships.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 8:41 pm to Vanilla Coke
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would say they are satisfied with what Sumlin has produced to this point.
Of course we're satisfied with his product the first two years into the SEC.
He's won more games in his first two years than any coach from our past.
We're ecstatic with his service thus far. Part of that is based on expectations, which are derived from what he's done to date. The natural progression for good coaches is for the product to become even better once the program is made their own. For Sumlin that will be in 2015.
This is a very simple dynamic.
We believe Sumlin is the answer. We therefore paid him so he'd stay. That figure happens to be very high. We had formidable competition. We're also about to enter an age where $5M isn't reserved for the top 3 coaches.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 8:43 pm to DWag215
Wow. Not worth half that.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 8:46 pm to nc14
Posted on 12/1/13 at 8:51 pm to DWag215
I agree totally with argument of "he hasn't proven championships" etc. However, college football coaching salary market is skyrocketing. It's probably on par. Saban and Miles could grab 7-10 million $$ now. Real estate.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 10:03 pm to AginAL
The last Head Football Coach to voluntarily leave Texas A&M was Bear Bryant.
I thinks this puts to rest all this stupid speculation that the Aggies will allow USCw or anyone else to outbid us for OUR mother frickin Coach.
And with approximately $500 million in football facilities upgrades there is now no doubt A&M is a destination job.
I thinks this puts to rest all this stupid speculation that the Aggies will allow USCw or anyone else to outbid us for OUR mother frickin Coach.
And with approximately $500 million in football facilities upgrades there is now no doubt A&M is a destination job.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 10:07 pm to DWag215
Bookmark it. Bet $5mm that I am right.
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