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re: Downsizing venues instead of downsizing prices for the masses

Posted on 8/16/18 at 5:21 am to
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 5:21 am to
quote:

Cheese Grits




Maybe you shouldn't be so poor then
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 5:42 am to
Kentucky when they renovated went from 68K to 61K seating, which is the trend going forward.

But the pricing is ridiculous.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 5:51 am to
quote:

Kentucky when they renovated went from 68K to 61K seating, which is the trend going forward.

But the pricing is ridiculous.




Also, the fees are pretty absurd. I hate to say it, but if you are goonna go to a game, just do stubhub or get off street.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 5:51 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:10 am to
Like one of the other posters mentioned, when you add up all the costs of attending (tickets, fees, parking, tailgating, traffic), I have found it much easier to stay home and enjoy it remotely. I also don't have to worry about idiot spilling drinks or making messes all around me. Much prefer to watch from home.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:08 am to
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We're nearing critical mass in a sense, the proverbial expanding bubble that will eventually burst.


Which is interesting as alumni bases have grown. Think of the student population at a state school in say the 1950's and 1960's (the prime population bubble for kids in college) yet the state schools were far from where they sit now. TAMU may be the extreme as it converted from all male to coed. So, in theory student populations have swelled (as college has been deemed necessary for those who can to cut it) yet attendance continues to decline.

Scrooster = ideal donor generation even when school size was small
Scrooster Jr = school size grows but generation still attends live events
Scrooster III = school size continues to grow but cost limit live attendance
Scrooster IV = big drop in live attendance and donations as cost rises, venues shrink
Scrooster V = might have money but chooses not to as no live exposure
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Maybe you shouldn't be so poor then


It is not just about rich and poor

It is like country clubs losing attendance as people who have the means choose not to spend it on that luxury. I know several doctors and lawyers in the 35 to 45 year range who have opted not to join even tho they had the financial resources to do so. They have transferred that wealth to bigger toys and more travel. At least two families were descendants of club founders and were already accepted to join.

Dynamics are changing and as schools are cutting off the lower income alumni and fans they are winding up with smaller pools of wealthy to tap for ever rising costs. Seems some wealthy are already beginning to say no.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:17 am to
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Kentucky when they renovated went from 68K to 61K seating, which is the trend going forward.

But the pricing is ridiculous.


UK vs UL last seasons game was empty upstairs even tho both had respectable seasons and the weather cooperated. Well you do not sell at least that type game out, you may be seeing the canary in the coalmine.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:31 am to
Actually a very good point. Administrators arent interested in tons of people on campus and at games. More people=more security/logistics/cleanup.

Fans and alumni are at the very bottom of the importance scale when decisions are being made which is sad. Cant really bitch at fans for not showing up to watch cupcake games when parking is super expensive and a hotdog/bottled water will cost you $15 all on top of your $100 ticket
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:20 am to
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Fans and alumni are at the very bottom of the importance scale when decisions are being made which is sad. Cant really bitch at fans for not showing up to watch cupcake games when parking is super expensive and a hotdog/bottled water will cost you $15 all on top of your $100 ticket


Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
44035 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:16 am to
Cheese is right. No one wants to deal with going to the game when it is shown in high def on television. Keep in mind, with the television packages that show games live (back in the day, games were on tape delay unless it was a national game or on Jefferson Pilot).

This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 10:17 am
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
44035 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:20 am to
Hey Baw, Florida Football is not selling out every football game.

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60840 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Jefferson Pilot


Now that was some football!
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:53 pm to
I largely agree with OP.

The younger generation isn't as interested in sports, and especially attending them live.

College football attendance has been declining.

The idea of decreasing capacity and making the experience more luxurious for those attending is one way to deal with it, but it also doesn't really invest in the future.

The common man and the younger people are what keep the sport alive, long run. You want them to be interested and invested in your game. Turning stadiums into playgrounds for the wealthy keeps the dollars flowing in, FOR NOW, but what about 20-30 years down the road?

If you don't develop a love for football in your youth, it's rare you ever do.

The live gameday experience needs to be family friendly in terms of cost. Good luck taking your family of 4 to a football game for less than like $800.
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42523 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:59 pm to
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Another snore inducing thread by Cheese.

Is that "snoring" like what you taterhead sheep humping sister bangers do when you lay down in the hay after dumping your load into some unsuspecting farm animal's arse?

Or "snoring" as in "boring" which the taterhead fan base who chooses to live on this SEC forum wrote the book on?

Which one?

Or did you mean both in one fell swoop?
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

"We lose but it's ok because we are rich!"


"It's alright, It's OK,

You'll work for us someday."-Vandy fans
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23957 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

"We lose but it's ok because we are rich!"


-Texas A&M
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6220 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 2:36 pm to
We are likely facing this question soon with renovations to The Swamp. There will be renovations announced in the near future, and just based on some of the preliminary conversations it sounds like they are trying to prepare people for a reduction in capacity.
Posted by East Texas Tiger 99
East Texas
Member since Nov 2013
545 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 2:45 pm to
Hate to break it to you MR. RICH Aggie, but you guys only averaged 98,802 last season. Well behind Bama, Mich.,OSU, and Penn. St. and a few less than 300 hundred less than us poor LSU folks. Research before you speak,,, Typical Aggie!!

This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 2:47 pm
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12325 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 3:22 pm to
I agree to some extent because its why we can't commit to a large scale expansion. I think if they would add quality instead of quantity they'll be fine but even then it isn't going to be cheap.
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