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re: Does Ole Miss snitch go MAD or just take it

Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:37 am to
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Makes fans feel better to think they're taking people down with them, but it never actually happens


How many SEC schools admitted to paying for Albert Means? 7 maybe?

How many got pinched?
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:41 am to
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That may be true but how many schools have a player snitch on another school then that player gets a defamation of character filed against them?

You probably need to ge read up on State's 2003 NCAA investigation before you post anything else.

After that, read up on Bama's Albert Means case.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:42 am to
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You probably need to ge read up on State's 2003 NCAA investigation before you post anything else.

After that, read up on Bama's Albert Means case.


How about he actually just read and interpret correctly the comments Slive made about the subject
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:43 am to


Yeah, that too.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:08 am to
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How many SEC schools admitted to paying for Albert Means? 7 maybe?


Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas were all actively involved in his recruitment until the end knowing what was going on with the kids and his handlers. Fat Phil became a "secret witness" only after he didn't land the kid.

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How many got pinched?

Only one, and it was more than pinched. It was hit in the balls with a sledge hammer.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:11 am to
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That may be true but how many schools have a player snitch on another school then that player gets a defamation of character filed against them?

Irrelevant in NCAA case, which will be decided before the lawsuit is. Also, if you read that complaint you'd know it's pretty damn weak and I doubt very seriously that the attorneys representing the 3 named defendants are too terribly worried about it. Gonna be a hard one for RR to win.

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So that player has to answer questions under other potential.

In a civil case during which he will have an attorney present and will have had said attorney prep him for questions along the way. You guys shouldn't really hang your hopes on this one.

(also, maybe you should take a second to remember that you have like a gillion level 1 violations and Leo Lewis isn't the entire case against you...OM getting that hammer bruh)

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31762 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:32 am to
Oh, if OM only had Leo Lewis to worry about....they'd be walking in high cotton today.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:38 am to
LL is heavily involved in the amended NOA. Like 90% including the FTM she LOIC. If he is find to be a liar then we will get basically what we have self imposed plus maybe a few more scholarships. There is definitely a plausible senario where we walk away with 1 year ban and 18-20 over 3,
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31762 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:42 am to
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Also, Anyone have any info on booster ban list?

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TutHillTiger


You are slipping in your old age man. You had all sorts of inside information back in the ATPB days. You had sources inside the NCAA, FBI, IRS and tied corruption of the worst kind back to Auburn folks.

Are we to believe that in 18 months with 2 NOA's on record, you can't find the names of a few puny little OleMiss Booster's when many are from the very state you reside?

Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:01 am to
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If he is find to be a liar then we will get basically what we have self imposed plus maybe a few more scholarships


I'm trying to remember the last time the NCAA accepted just what a school imposed based on the # of level 1 violations (even on the initial NOA). You're getting more than you self imposed just on the initial. Then you've got a whole new set of concerns with the 2nd NOA that are outside of Lewis.

I get you guys wanting to cling to ever ounce of hope you can get your hands on, but at some point you're going to have to accept reality and move forward. It'll make it easier on you when the penalties do come.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5403 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:07 am to
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Only one


UK got hit as well on the Means investigation. I lived in Kentucky at the time.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:22 am to
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UK got hit as well on the Means investigation


They did. You're right. They didn't get hit like Bama (guess it didn't pay to win that recruiting battle), but they did get hit.

How did Tenn manage to skate on that?
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3975 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:25 am to
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then that player gets a defamation of character filed against them



Easy to call one player a liar. Just one. However, the owner of Rebel Rags filed on TWO players and ONE ex step dad.

Maybe OM admin should not have thrown Tunsil's step dad under the bus. Seems like the things OM said he was making up turned out to be true on draft night.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5403 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:39 am to
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How did Tenn manage to skate on that?


I don't know, but I knew a UK guy that had specifics of the whole ordeal. I remember him saying there were six or seven teams heavily involved in Means recruitment (UT, UK, Bama, Ark and Michigan State were the ones I can remember off hand).
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13299 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:40 am to
Check the all time probations given to each school in the sec. That's all I'm gonna say. Tell me how many times LSU has been on probation compared to every other sec school. We are pretty damn clean. Believe that.
Posted by My Name
'Burg
Member since Jun 2017
56 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:47 pm to
Gtfo with that shite. The investigation started under Slive's watch. It would have never happened if OM wouldn't have cheated a on scale that's never been seen before.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31762 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:49 pm to
LSU has been pretty damn clean. There's a new sheriff in town now and he is a hot shot recruiter. Hell, one of the positives from his OM stint was that he brought in talent.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:04 pm to
How many schools it is hard to say considering there are at least 17 players in this suit.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4690 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:06 pm to
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How many SEC schools admitted to paying for Albert Means? 7 maybe?

How many got pinched?


Interesting, and true. OM was one of those schools (and David "8 year show cause" Saunders was Cutcliffe's recruiting coordinator for 4 years), so that means OM has had four consecutive tainted coaching regimes. And that started only 5 years after Billy Brewer.
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