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re: Does MSmoo have the talent to challenge 'Bama?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:05 am to LBC
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:05 am to LBC
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Didn't he get arrested for having a gun in his car or something?
That's where they got the idea for "The Book of Eli"
Nobody messeses with a guy toting a bible while packing heat
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:07 am to Tds & Beer
No - they don't have the talent to challenge, but I hope they play a tough, physical game against Bama and bring the wood.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:07 am to LBC
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And I'm sure ULM had like four or five draft picks right? And none of the juniors or sophomores or freshman went in their drafts later right?
I really don't see what you are trying to prove here. Yes UL-Monroe, a supposedly inferior team, beat Alabama at Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2007. I know you are using that one game (as well as the Utah game) to give yourself hope that your overrated football team can come into Bryant-Denny and upset Alabama. But there are a few key differences that I don't think you are seeing:
1) That 2007 team was bad. It finished the regular season 6-6 and struggled to beat Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Houston.
2) That '07 team did not have a lot of talent on the team. Sure...players like Andre Smith, Rashad Johnson, Kareem Jackson, and Rolando McClain would go on to have great NFL careers, but at that point they were still young. Jackson and McClain were both true freshmen and Smith was a sophomore. Rashad Johnson came out of nowhere in 2008 after three years or so of relative obscurity. The dude wasn't even recruited to Alabama, he walked on.
All you have to do to see where this game is going to go is look at the scores between our one and only common opponent. You had Tennessee at home and were leading 34-31 with mere seconds left in the game before a garbage touchdown made the game seem less competitive than what it was. But I guess when your team was up 27-14 at the half you decided to pull your starters and give your back ups some experience. I mean...you guys are so good that you don't even have to play them the whole game even when the contest is still relatively close.
On the other hand, Tennessee was never in its game against Alabama at Neyland Stadium. With the exception of a few big plays here and there, they couldn't do anything. We held them to their lowest output of the season and, if not for that fumble by Blake Sims, they would have gained fewer yards against our defense than even Michigan gained.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 10:09 am
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:08 am to RollTide1987
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The fact that not a single Alabama player was taken in the 2008 NFL Draft kind of shoots down that thesis, doesn't it? For perspective, that's the first time Alabama was shut out of the draft since 1970.
Sooooo, you guys didnt play any Juniors, Sophomores, or Freshmen in that game? Because I'm pretty sure you had a few guys drafted in 2009 and 2010
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:08 am to Beer Bryant
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That was Saban's 2nd season. Miles is in his 8th season.
It doesn't matter if it's your 2nd or your 20th season. Losing multiple starting O-lineman, especially very good Left Tackles, hurts, and hurts bad.
It's nice to see how you made my point for me though. Excuses are valid for Bama, but not for anyone else. Bama fan will always put a spin on it.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:11 am to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
dude, Mike Shula left Saban plenty of talent. Even the 2009 NC team was littered with Shula recruits. Stop with the BS
You had twice as much talent as ULM and got beat. So all this crap about trying to show your talent superiority over State is useless. Yes you have more talent overall, but upsets happen in college football every season. That's why college football is so great
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:11 am to CoonassBulldog
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Sooooo, you guys didnt play any Juniors, Sophomores, or Freshmen in that game? Because I'm pretty sure you had a few guys drafted in 2009 and 2010
Nope, we had another Senior Day
No excuses, they got hammered...I know it, and most others know it.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:12 am to RollTide1987
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All you have to do to see where this game is going to go is look at the scores between our one and only common opponent. You had Tennessee at home and were leading 34-31 with mere seconds left in the game before a garbage touchdown made the game seem less competitive than what it was. But I guess when your team was up 27-14 at the half you decided to pull your starters and give your back ups some experience. I mean...you guys are so good that you don't even have to play them the whole game even when the contest is still relatively close.
On the other hand, Tennessee was never in its game against Alabama at Neyland Stadium. With the exception of a few big plays here and there, they couldn't do anything. We held them to their lowest output of the season and, if not for that fumble by Blake Sims, they would have gained fewer yards against our defense than even Michigan gained.
These are great points. Points that each and every state poster on here is perfectly aware of. Keep in mind that Tennessee had two weeks to prepare for state. Then they lost in a physical game and had to turn around and play Bama at 0-3 in the conference. That's tough to do. I have a hard time believing they were totally ready to play that day. Stop acting like all the State posters on here expect a win on Saturday. All we are saying is that it can be done. And it can. If you don't believe that, you are dellusional.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:13 am to CoonassBulldog
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Sooooo, you guys didnt play any Juniors, Sophomores, or Freshmen in that game? Because I'm pretty sure you had a few guys drafted in 2009 and 2010
2008 and 2009 Alabama =/= 2007 Alabama. Every team is different as you can see by the record. There was talent on the '07 team but it had yet to be developed. McClain and Kareem Jackson were both true freshmen. McClain really didn't grow into a beast linebacker until 2008 and Jackson didn't become the shut down CB we all knew and loved until 2009. Javier Arenas didn't really become an All-American type CB until the very next year. Of all the talent we had on that '07 team, Andre Smith - a sophomore - was the only one who was NFL ready in 2007.
So you can argue with me over semantics and say, "Well...Alabama had players drafted in 2009 and 2010." But you'd be missing the point. A lot of those future NFL players Alabama had on its '07 roster had yet to develop into stars that season. A few of them, like McClain, showed flashes of greatness, but it wasn't until 2008-2009 that they showed who they truly were and what they were capable of.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:14 am to TheSecWEST
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I saw a Utah team with no 4 or 5 stars beat the ever more dog shite out of a very talented Bama team loaded with 5 stars. I guess they didn't get the memo that you have to be highly ranked in recruiting to win.
A 13-0 Utah team that finished #2 in the country? Regardless, we now see what Utah is facing having to play quality opponents every week and not get up for one game. Nevermind Alabama had just lost the chance to play Oklahoma for a national title in Miami.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:14 am to Tds & Beer
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All we are saying is that it can be done. And it can. If you don't believe that, you are dellusional.
Oh...I realize it can be done - but only if we show up sleepwalking. If Alabama shows up motivated and ready to play against MSU, you have no chance.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:16 am to CoonassBulldog
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dude, Mike Shula left Saban plenty of talent. Even the 2009 NC team was littered with Shula recruits. Stop with the BS
You had twice as much talent as ULM and got beat. So all this crap about trying to show your talent superiority over State is useless. Yes you have more talent overall, but upsets happen in college football every season. That's why college football is so great
You don't have a clue what Mike Shula "left" Nick Saban to work with. Not a clue.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:17 am to Tds & Beer
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Keep in mind that Tennessee had two weeks to prepare for state. Then they lost in a physical game and had to turn around and play Bama at 0-3 in the conference. That's tough to do. I have a hard time believing they were totally ready to play that day.
Todd Blackledge disagrees with you. He said that Tennessee's defense - at least for the first 30 minutes or so - played better than they had against other SEC competition.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:19 am to CapstoneGrad06
When was the last time Bama was behind in a game? It will happen in the first half Saturday. Anybody wanna sig quote that? But I do really wanna know the answer if y'all can help me out.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 10:20 am
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:20 am to Tds & Beer
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All you have to do to see where this game is going to go is look at the scores between our one and only common opponent. You had Tennessee at home and were leading 34-31 with mere seconds left in the game before a garbage touchdown made the game seem less competitive than what it was
Bammer had Tennessee 23-10 at half
State had Tennessee down 27-14 at half.
Both 13 point games- State relaxed at halftime- Bammer didnt. And Tennessee had 2 weks to get ready for the Grind- just one week for Bammer
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:20 am to CapstoneGrad06
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You don't have a clue what Mike Shula "left" Nick Saban to work with. Not a clue.
Croom left MSU in better shape for Merlins. Saban did coach up what Shula left.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:21 am to Tds & Beer
For 7 seconds against Ole Miss. Before that? Maybe a few minutes against Tennessee in 2011. And what does it matter? Is leading at some point a moral victory?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:21 am to Beer Bryant
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Croom left MSU in better shape for Merlins
no
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:22 am to CoonassBulldog
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Bammer had Tennessee 23-10 at half
State had Tennessee down 27-14 at half.
Both 13 point games- State relaxed at halftime- Bammer didnt. And Tennessee had 2 weks to get ready for the Grind- just one week for Bammer
There are two halves to every game.
41-31
44-13
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:22 am to CapstoneGrad06
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For 7 seconds against Ole Miss. Before that? Maybe a few minutes against Tennessee in 2011. And what does it matter? Is leading at some point a moral victory?
no I just thought it hadn't been done this year, but thought that maybe ole miss did for a second. Couldn't remember.
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