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Does Mark Ingram Win or Lose the Heisman Today?

Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:07 am
Posted by Dignan
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Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:07 am
Predict his numbers here.

If he's held under 90 yards and Bama loses, I think he's finished.

If he runs for 100+ and Bama wins, I think he remains a frontrunner.

If he runs for 150+ he becomes the odds on favorite.
Posted by luvmesumlsu
DFW
Member since Dec 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:09 am to
i believe Ingram has over 100, but LSU still wins! No Heisman for Ingram this year!
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28613 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:15 am to
hell.. this is a fantastic question in my opinion! what say you ranters?
Posted by jledet
Panhandle
Member since Jan 2008
4922 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:17 am to
everyone is playing for 2nd, if tebow is still in the mix by doing nothing all year except against uga charleston and troy... doesnt matter what everyone else does
Posted by dex
VA
Member since Oct 2009
416 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:17 am to
He never had it to begin with. He is a RB.

The award will go to another QB this year, sad to say.

In order to get it as a RB, you need to put up some insane stats like Barry Sanders. Ingram just isn't good enough to do that.

He isn't the type of RB that can break for 80 yards every time he touchs the ball and he doesn't return kicks.

He isn't going to run for over 2,000+ or 35+ TDs. Nope, not going to happen.

It's going to a QB.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:18 am to
I'll say 23 rushes for 123 yards.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9750 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:18 am to
I don't think he can win it today..nor do I think he can lose it. He can do more to lose it than win it unless he just off crazy, which I don't hink he will.

He will get 125-145yds and 2tds...
Posted by AubieOne
Helena, Al
Member since Nov 2007
2198 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:19 am to
I don't think he will get his numbers today. TR and Upchurch will take too many carries away from him. Also they will have to pass coming from behind.
Posted by Auburntiger
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:21 am to
I really don't understand why he is in the Heisman discussion this year anyway...



* I think he will be in the discussion next year though
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:23 am to
I'm not so sure it's Tebow's this year. His stats aren't what they've been in the past. He might get a Lifetime achievement type Heisman, but it won't be based on his stats THIS year. Same thing for Colt McCoy.

Ingram on the other hand, has torn up SEC competition. And if he gets the chance to play Florida in the SEC CG and wins, I think the award is his to lose.

Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:27 am to
Geez, I don't know. Maybe because the guy has averaged 165 yards against SEC defenses the past 4 games. Even an Auburn fan has to admit, that's pretty impressive.


10/3 @Kentucky W 38-20 22 140 6.4 32 2 1 6 6.0 6 0 0 0
10/10 @Mississippi W 22-3 28 172 6.1 36 1 3 16 5.3 13 0 0 0
10/17 South Carolina W 20-6 24 246 10.3 54 1 2 23 11.5 22 0 0 0
10/24 Tennessee W 12-10 18 99 5.5 25 0 0 0 0.0 0
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13305 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:28 am to
below are the stats of three SEC RB's

do any of these players stats scream "Heisman Candidate"?

Player A: ATTEMPTS 182
YARDS 1,001
TD's 9

Player B: ATTEMPTS 153
YARDS 1,004
TD's 8


Player C: ATTEMPTS 193
YARDS 1067
TD's 6


Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:32 am to
Your putting stats in from Florida International, Arkansas, and North Texas- games which Alabama won by a total of 128-28.

He didn't get the yardage, because he didn't get the carries.

But his last 4 games, he's averaged 165 a game and that doesn't count the Virginia Tech game of 150 yards.

Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13305 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:34 am to
Dignan...I am not saying the guy isn't good...or even great..

I am just saying IMO that I don't think he has done enough to be in the "Heisman" talk for this season..

with him only being a Soph...I think he will have legit shot at it next year if he has a banner year
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:35 am to
Player B has nearly the same amount of yardage as Player C and A, with 30-40 less attempts.

I'd say Player B's stats far exceed the other two.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25332 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Your putting stats in from Florida International, Arkansas, and North Texas- games which Alabama won by a total of 128-28.

He didn't get the yardage, because he didn't get the carries.


Even though we got our arse kicked...we pretty much shut Ingram down...Richardson on the other hand ate our lunch on the one big run
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:38 am to
It's Tebow's if he wants another one
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
13305 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:39 am to
and to compare..against the same teams..Ben Tate rushed for:

Kentucky L 21-14 31 132 4.3 18 1

@Tennessee W 26-22 25 128 5.1 20 1

Mississippi W 33-20 25 144 5.8 53 1

Ben Tate for Heisman
This post was edited on 11/7/09 at 8:40 am
Posted by TIGERforLIFEinTX
Kingwood, TX
Member since Jul 2007
524 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:42 am to
Lose - Only if we can stop the run. If we do, unless he starts spelling his name TEBOW, probably not. If we cannot stop the run, the Heisman may well be determined in Atlanta.
Posted by dex
VA
Member since Oct 2009
416 posts
Posted on 11/7/09 at 8:42 am to
quote:

I'm not so sure it's Tebow's this year. His stats aren't what they've been in the past. He might get a Lifetime achievement type Heisman, but it won't be based on his stats THIS year. Same thing for Colt McCoy.

Ingram on the other hand, has torn up SEC competition. And if he gets the chance to play Florida in the SEC CG and wins, I think the award is his to lose.


Have you seen Keanum or Clausen? They are in the running too.

I think it will be either one of them or McCoy or Tebow.
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