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re: Does Gus Make Bielema Feel Insecure?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:40 am to We_Need_Cam
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:40 am to We_Need_Cam
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I just can't wrap my head around this being serious. It's not like hits to the head or something. If you're too fat to play a series straight you need to improve your conditioning.
It isn't about a series (3 plays), it is about extended series of 10+ plays straight.
I do not understand why this is so hard to grasp. Bert even laid out it being about 10+ plays in plain English while on the podium yesterday.
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:41 am to WaveHog
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i don't understand why Auburn fans think the comments are based on insecurity or fear of losing rather than a sincere concern for safety.
I don't know that it is either. I just know the guy likes to bitch and moan. He did it before he got to the SEC. And he's done it numerous times since he's been here.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:42 am to WaveHog
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why Auburn fans think the comments are based on insecurity or fear of losing
i think it's just because that's one of the 'go to' response these days when you can't come up with an original thought- you mad, butthurt, scared, etc.- it all goes together and blends into a nice bland mush.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:43 am to WDE24
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Because it is an illegitimate concern that lacks reason
i posted an article with experts who said it is a legitimate concern.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:45 am to WaveHog
OP, 9.5/10. Nice.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:45 am to undecided
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Seems like Bielema feels like the 2nd fiddle to Arkansas HOF Coach Gus Malzahn which makes him act out and go on illogical rants about not being a scientist or a comedian or a space cowboy tFlagshig passengers, why is your capitan so angry and insecure?
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undecided
NO! BB seems confident in his abilities.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:46 am to WaveHog
quote:Not really. They said they had no data to support it and that to the extent it creates increased fatigue it conceptually could be a concern.
i posted an article with experts who said it is a legitimate concern.
You know a good way to deal with increased fatigue in a sport? Is it to get in better shape or change the rules so the ones not in as good of shape are not disadvantaged?
ETA: Should we eliminate the fast break and press in basketball as well?
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:48 am to WDE24
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Is it to get in better shape or change the rules so the ones not in as good of shape are not disadvantaged?
Found your answer...
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:00 am to WDE24
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Not really. They said they had no data to support it and that to the extent it creates increased fatigue it conceptually could be a concern.
fatigue may be the basis, but the quote is "I think it is a very legitimate concern." if you honestly think saban and bielema are "crying" because they are "scared", then i don't think either one of us will convince the other.
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ETA: Should we eliminate the fast break and press in basketball as well?
depends on whether or not basketball rules are changed so players are allowed to tackle each other.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:02 am to WaveHog
I've got very mixed feelings on the talk of hunh offense and also BB's twitter account.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:03 am to WaveHog
quote:I don't know that "scared" is the right word, just looking to make rule changes to better suit their own coaching strengths and possibly hide weaknesses. I certainly don't buy the concern about injuries.
"crying" because they are "scared", then i don't think either one of us will convince the other.
quote:So you don't believe that fatigue in basketball makes a player more susceptible to injury?
depends on whether or not basketball rules are changed so players are allowed to tackle each other.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 10:04 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:05 am to WDE24
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ETA: Should we eliminate the fast break and press in basketball as well?
With the increase of media time outs, the effectiveness of playing uptempo "40 minutes of Hell" style basketball has been reduced.
The NCAA also put in rules banning hand checking which reduced the effectiveness of full court press/in your face man-to-man defense.
The game no longer has the possibility of 10+ minute stretches of continuous play giving the opposing team plenty of chances to sub for tired players against teams that play full court pressure. In the case of long stretches of play, now you have multiple media time outs made up within the next few minutes of play given dead ball/ free throw shots.
Nice comparison tho, you are helping make Bert and SaBear's case.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:07 am to WaveHog
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fatigue may be the basis, but the quote is "I think it is a very legitimate concern."
No the quote is
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"I think it is a very legitimate concern to the extent that there truly is an added fatigue factor,"
This is also there:
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In the meantime, none of the concussion experts in this story suggested the NCAA or conferences should implement dramatic rules changes like the one proposed by Bielema. They don't yet have data to quantifiably conclude that hurry-up offenses are an issue.
"That's part of the problem in this area right now," said Dr. Micky Collins, director of the Sports Medicine Concussion Program at University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. "There's so much discussion and so much concern, I'm worried decisions will be made that are knee-jerk decisions that could cause harm if not made on solid scientific evidence."
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:12 am to DaleDenton
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A chance to sub out tired players
Condition better, it won't be a problem.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:12 am to DaleDenton
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A chance to sub out tired players.
A better S and C program will help this. Arkansas should have the resources for a quality kiniseologist, nutrisionist, and trainer to put htese players in the best shape possible.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:14 am to parkjas2001
quote:Timeouts. Stopping the offense. Forcing turnovers. Extended offensive possessions.
A better S and C program will help this.
There are lots of answers already within the rules such that a rules change seems silly. The only reasonable explanation for the complaining is he wants a competitive advantage.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 10:16 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:19 am to WDE24
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Timeouts.
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The only reasonable explanation for the complaining is he wants a competitive advantage.
So it isn't a competitive advantage for a HUNH to force the opposition to use time outs to sub out tired players?
Going back to the basketball reference, you can stop the clock to make subs by fouling, saving time outs (although now days the foul is likely to result in a media timeout).
The refs can dictate the pace/allow subs by calling penalties, but when they start calling holding every chance they get, you will be bitching about how its "not fair". We saw refs call nit picking fouls when the pace was to a point where they were having problems keeping up during Nolan's hey day, but I guess they needed to be involved in a S and C program.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:21 am to DaleDenton
quote:It is within the rules. BB is looking for a rule change to get a competitive advantage. Also, they aren't force to call a timeout, they could just get a 3 and out or get in better condition. The timeout is just one of many options that don't involve changing the rules of the sport.
So it isn't a competitive advantage for a HUNH to force the opposition to use time outs to sub out tired players?
quote:Lol, this makes no sense and is tantamount to waiving the white flag on this debate.
The refs can dictate the pace/allow subs by calling penalties, but when they start calling holding every chance they get, you will be bitching about how its "not fair". We saw refs call nit picking fouls when the pace was to a point where they were having problems keeping up during Nolan's hey day, but I guess they needed to be involved in a S and C program.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 10:23 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:24 am to DaleDenton
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So it isn't a competitive advantage for a HUNH to force the opposition to use time outs to sub out tired players?
No, it is well within the rules to go as fast as possible. A hurry up offense doesnt force a coach to use his timeouts.
I thought you could sub out defensive players if the offense subed out a player. Isn't that a rule?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:25 am to WDE24
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Lol, this makes no sense and is tantamount to waiving the white flag on this debate.
makes a lot of sense if you watch basketball. Refs totally can dictate whether the game is wide open run and shoot or whether you need to be an expert in half court execution. There are fouls that could be called every play in basketball similar to how holding could be called every play in football.
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It is within the rules. BB is looking for a rule change to get a competitive advantage. Also, they aren't force to call a timeout, they could just get a 3 and out or get in better condition. The timeout is just one of many options that don't involve changing the rules of the sport.
I think we should wait on rule changes til we have conclusive evidence. Rule changes usually frick us over long run when they happen.
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