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re: Doak Walker Award Finalists (Top RB) - Just one from the SEC?

Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:09 pm to
That’s McKinney in both of them
Posted by 19
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:09 pm to
Welp.

This is Willie's World.

We all just trespassing.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:10 pm to
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That’s McKinney in both of them


You sure?

What a game he had!
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:11 pm to
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Well if we’re being totally honest here, the reason CEH gets a higher YPC is because defenses are much more worried about Burrow roasting their defense, therefore they play more coverage than they would against Georgia.

CEH: 75 broken tackles (156 carries)

Snift: 53 broken tackles (164 carries)

CEH: 3.51 yards after contact average

Snift: 3.21 yards after contact average
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:12 pm to
Sounds like he couldn’t Snift CEH’s jock strap
Posted by 19
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:12 pm to
Willie went N dry; ripped lips.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:13 pm to
Yeah you can see his number about six different times in the second gif


Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

Well if we’re being totally honest here, the reason CEH gets a higher YPC is because defenses are much more worried about Burrow roasting their defense, therefore they play more coverage than they would against Georgia.

Teams know Georgia is going to run the ball more than LSU, so they stack the box more against them.


Agreed.

See LSU with Fournette. Couldn't get any traction at all against Bama because they knew what was coming and didn't have to respect the QB as much as they do now.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:16 pm to
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CEH: 75 broken tackles (156 carries)

Snift: 53 broken tackles (164 carries)

CEH: 3.51 yards after contact average

Snift: 3.21 yards after contact average


Willy bringing the stat heat.

Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:23 pm to
Those stats don’t necessarily correlate.

Most SEC RB’s can break a tackle from one defender consistently.

Swift usually gets tackled by 2 defenders at once.

Also, Swift doesn’t have to break tackles when the defenders don’t even touch him.

See in the below Gifs how defenders consistently rush 8-9 against Georgia.









The dude just knows how to make people look like fools

It’s just not Swift’s style. The overall consensus of Georgia fans is that it’s amazing Swift has had a decent season despite the line stacking.


The truth is Georgia’s lack of passing game affects the way defenses play them. Defenses send 6-9 guys on any given down, which is why Swift’s carries are mostly either no gain or 15+ yards.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 11:34 pm
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:25 pm to
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WilliamTaylor21


Bro. These people have families. Keep that in mind next time you are wrecking these dudes.

At least send T&Ps.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:49 pm to
SEC defensive ranks of teams LSU has played:

3
4
6
11
12
14

AVG Defensive Rank played: 8.3


SEC defensive ranks of teams Georgia has played

2
3
4
7
8
10
14

AVG defensive Rank played: 6.8

This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Carl Tuckerson
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:57 pm to
Imagine counting total defense and not rushing defense in a thread about the Doak Walker Award.

The truth is that our opponents have been nearly identical, but LSU barely ekes out ahead.


LSU SEC opponents rushing ypg:

Florida (110.5)
Auburn (115.5)
Ole Miss (132.0)
Alabama (137.3)
Mississippi State (161.7)
Vanderbilt (217.1)

AVG: 145.7

UGA SEC opponents rushing ypg:

Florida (110.5)
Auburn (115.5)
Missouri (131.7)
South Carolina (153.2)
Tennessee (154.1)
Kentucky (159.0)
Vanderbilt (217.1)

AVG: 148.7
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:02 am to
That’s fair.

However those numbers are skewed.

Georgia averages 208 rushing yards a game.

LSU averages 165 rushing yards a game.

Obviously the teams that play Georgia will have given up more average yards.

I suspect LSU’s true average opponent YPG is closer to 138, while Georgia’s is more like 130
Posted by Carl Tuckerson
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:06 am to
That's why I led with them being similar. I think your guesses are overstating the effect either team had (LSU's opponent average and UGA's opponent average will be higher), but I wouldn't be surprised if it flipped slightly to UGA's favor after removing the damage each team did to its opponents' rankings.

In practice I suspect any difference either way is minor. I wouldn't trumpet the numbers I posted last post for instance lol. And I wouldn't trumpet the proposed 8 ypg difference either.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:06 am to
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That’s fair.

However those numbers are skewed.


It’s pretty hilarious that you want to point out those numbers as being skewed. You literally just used total defense of opponents to make the same point in favor of UGA while ignoring that LSU is averaging nearly 130 YPG more.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:07 am to
Yeah and I admitted I was wrong. I’m tired.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:09 am to
I’m going to bed.

The truth is you can’t say Georgia’s abysmal passing game doesn’t affect how defenses play the run game.

Congrats to CEH

I hope he wins.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:25 am to
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The truth is you can’t say Georgia’s abysmal passing game doesn’t affect how defenses play the run game.

Maybe - if DeAndrew Snift were better - it would open up your dump arse passing game...

Ever thought of that Alfred Einstein!?
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