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re: Do the troubles at ESPN bother anyone else?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:48 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:48 am to Vecchio Cane
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I saw where Ryan Rusillo was quoted as saying that he doesn't even know what his job is half the time. Seems like everybody on the air is there to make a political statement, not talk sports
As bad as ESPN's political shtick has gotten, ESPN Radio's is getting worse. Their weekend crew of mostly women talk non-stop about SJW issues.
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:48 am to scrooster
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ESPN's troubles do not bother me ... they'll get what they deserve now
Pretty much my thought and College football will be fine either way in the long run.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:48 am to Vecchio Cane
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hope ESPN goes bankrupt
They are well on the way
Disney could lose 1/2 their value and still be double their value of just a few years ago.
Disney in early November closed the books on its sixth consecutive year of record results, with revenue rising 6% to nearly $56 billion. Its media networks division, home to the struggling ESPN business, posted just a 2% uptick to mark a sharp slowdown from the prior year's 10% bounce.
However, the media giant more than made up for that weakness with growth in other segments. Parks and resorts kicked in a 5% increase but the studio segment was the real standout. Revenue spiked 28% as Disney enjoyed blockbuster theatrical hits across its key production studios of Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, Disney Animation, and Disney Pictures. Four of its films crossed $1 billion in global receipts on the way to making it the leading movie maker in the world for the first time since 2003.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:49 am to BloodSweat&Beers
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Is the SECN having an issue with Ad revenues?
I think SECN is doing fine, but ESPN is going to have to re-work everything eventually
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:50 am to Vecchio Cane
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ESPN
Is CNN Jr; I watch neither
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:51 am to scrooster
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My advice to SEC ADs would be to upgrade everything before the current deal expires - be debt free as quickly as possible.
This is sound advice for most any business. Unless a business can grow at double the cost of living they should be off the Debt Teat as soon as possible. Your banker is your risk adverse partner till you pay them off and get them out of your pocket.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:51 am to Cheese Grits
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Disney could lose 1/2 their value and still be double their value of just a few years ago.
So we hope that Iger is a CFB fan
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:54 am to FairhopeTider
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What is the profitability of the SEC Network? On one hand I would be shocked if it isn't making money but I have to admit that I rarely tune in to it and I'm probably in their target market.
I wonder the same thing as to SECN profitability as most of the higher seed teams in the SEC play on other networks or ESPN channels.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:57 am to MrAUTigers
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eh, as popular as it is, I think the SEC would then own the SECN. That would mean more money for all of our schools.
Bingo. The demand for the SEC football is unmatched by other conferences. Providers would be clamoring over the opportunity to have that product.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:58 am to Dallasgrowl
Also surely women's sports and multiple replays of SEC Now can't be bringing in tons of ad revenue. Maybe College Football, Finebaum, and SEC Basketball does well enough to float the network the rest of the year.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:03 am to Vanilla Coke
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The demand for the SEC football is unmatched by other conferences. Providers would be clamoring over the opportunity to have that product.
Would the conference try to own the network?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:03 am to Vanilla Coke
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Providers would be clamoring over the opportunity to have that product.
Depends on the cost to obtain it.
Again, I ask this question. Let's assume that ESPN goes belly up because they aren't making any money which is because the providers said "shite ESPN we can't pay what your asking to broadcast your network so screw off." Now there are other things that would be at play here but let's ignore them for now if we can.
What makes the SEC think that they could then assume ownership of the SEC Network and make even the same amount of money that ESPN was making? The infrastructure investment from the SEC to be able to do that would be huge....YUUUUUGGGEEE!
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:07 am to Vecchio Cane
I'd say Universities just need to be careful not to over invest in projects that require anything but a very sustainable maintenance budget.
I do believe we've seen our last rounds of stadium expansion on Power 5.
However, look at the music industry. It seems to be doing okay again now that it found a way to compete with pirating.
Demand for the product will continue. Just don't be surprised if you see Rolex ads around the side of the field (or Casio in Mississippi State's case)
I do believe we've seen our last rounds of stadium expansion on Power 5.
However, look at the music industry. It seems to be doing okay again now that it found a way to compete with pirating.
Demand for the product will continue. Just don't be surprised if you see Rolex ads around the side of the field (or Casio in Mississippi State's case)
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:11 am to LSU316
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Depends on the cost to obtain it.
Depends more on the contract
If the mouse owns it, they could resell it to recoup part of any losses. They probably don't want FOX to get it but I can see them selling say 49% to NBC (old media) or Amazon (new media) and still getting out ahead of what it costs them. As mentioned before they could sell all or part of it back to the SEC at a greatly discounted price or a price equal to the actual cost of production.
If this happens I could see the SEC getting a broadcast center inside the footprint like Texas did with the LHN. Nashville (full of entertainment talent already), Atlanta (best airport), and Birmingham (current SEC HQ) would all be well suited for such a studio. If the partner is NBC I can see Notre Dame getting more games across more sports with the SEC schools.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:12 am to Vecchio Cane
I've been saying this is a bubble for several years, knowing it would be a while before it burst.
TV contracts for all sports are ridiculously overpriced. There's simply no justification for the amount of money they are throwing around, and advertisers are not going to pay increasingly higher spot rates for declining viewership.
Well, at least my alma mater spent its windfall from SECN wisely....
TV contracts for all sports are ridiculously overpriced. There's simply no justification for the amount of money they are throwing around, and advertisers are not going to pay increasingly higher spot rates for declining viewership.
Well, at least my alma mater spent its windfall from SECN wisely....
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:14 am to FearlessFreep
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at least my alma mater spent its windfall from SECN wisely
It is a really nice board
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:14 am to Vecchio Cane
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Would the conference try to own the network?
Fiscally, would probably make the most sense to contract with someone. Those logistics aren't easy. There's obviously varying degrees to which they could get support vs. go at it alone.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:14 am to Vecchio Cane
I love the SEC money but I miss the Sunshine network that showed more UF sporting events than the SEC network does now.
I'd be fine with going back to finding your own way with TV contracts.
I'd be fine with going back to finding your own way with TV contracts.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:15 am to Cheese Grits
I'm talking about the cost to obtain the network into their lineup by service providers. This is where the disparity is today and basically why ESPN is losing profits. The service providers are losing subscribers and thus ad dollars and thus are unable to pay what Disney/ESPN is asking.
So if the SEC asks the same amount they will have the same problems that Disney/ESPN have today.
Basically, the providers are trying to react to OTT services (mostly by creating their own OTT services which is awesome) whereas the networks are not.
So if the SEC asks the same amount they will have the same problems that Disney/ESPN have today.
Basically, the providers are trying to react to OTT services (mostly by creating their own OTT services which is awesome) whereas the networks are not.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:19 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:I don't disagree, but we could have done so much more with the money it cost us.
It is a really nice board
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