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re: Dispelling the myth of "3rd and Chavis"
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:57 pm to Old Sarge
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:57 pm to Old Sarge
quote:Fina-fricking-ly
LSU either needs a defense that will be able to prevent a field goal or touchdown in the last 2 minutes of the game. Or an offense that can create a lead bigger than one score.
A&M needs a defense that can get one or two more stops during the game and for it's offense to continue to build multiple score leads
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:09 pm to goldenbadger08
We are now back to the ultimate question. Who made out better?
Do NOT answer this question. For the love of Zulu water buffalo arse lick skydiving. Do NOT answer that question or this thread, and 400 more like it will reach 10,000 pages.
Do NOT answer this question. For the love of Zulu water buffalo arse lick skydiving. Do NOT answer that question or this thread, and 400 more like it will reach 10,000 pages.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:10 pm to Patton
quote:AMEN!
Oh my god. Can we please just make a Chavis board where you tards just bicker with each other back and forth? This Chavis shite is worse than UT spamming the board with hype.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:11 pm to RT1941
Don't lie. You love it.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:14 pm to Mirthomatic
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Serious questions: why do you think LSU has a ball control offense? Have you looked at where LSU has ranked in TOP during Chavis' stint as DC?
Because it does.
Yes. As has been established too many times in this thread LSU is consistently among the conference leaders in TOP (about 31 minutes-per-game). Sumlin's teams in the same span are close to the bottom nationally (about 27 minutes-per-game). This equates to a real-time disparity of about 17 minutes.
Talk about what you want, but trying to revise actual statistical information is just stupid.
We're dealing in philosophical disagreements and unrealistic expectations on both sides of this bullshite conversation. This is no longer an reasoned argument. It has devolved into petty bickering.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:16 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:We don't know yet but I think this question will answer it's self in a couple years
Who made out better?
Do NOT answer this question.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:16 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Try having an offense that actually scores enough not to make the defense have to win all the time
Sumlins O is only 8pts better per game the last 2 years than Les' ball control ground and pound abortion of an O. So once again, all stats aside, aTm's unstoppable air raid Offense is only 1....ONE, score better per game.
Chavis' cushion isn't as fluffy as you Ags make it out to be.....One score per game better than LSUs shitty O
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:17 pm to Dlab2013
We had a down year last year. So there really isn't enough data to prove this.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:22 pm to goldenbadger08
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We don't know yet but I think this question will answer it's self in a couple years
Agreed
I'm heading to the lake and will check in on y'all when I'm there tonight sipping on a beer.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:26 pm to Old Sarge
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We had a down year last year. So there really isn't enough data to prove this.
What do you think last year was for us?
WE lost our starting QB, RB, and 2 best WR's to the NFL. That was about 90% of 2013's offense right there.
Yet aggies continue to tell us how "poor" our offense was. Well no shite. It was young and inexperienced.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:30 pm to Dlab2013
Not to fan the flames but....
8 points is more than one score, and A&M was #26 in scoring v. LSU at #73.
However, your point is noted.
8 points is more than one score, and A&M was #26 in scoring v. LSU at #73.
However, your point is noted.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:32 pm to KaiserSoze99
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The reason for the tired D? 3-and-out Cam.
Again, Chavis is responsible for making sure his D can play. Part of that is knowing that Cam's offense sucks donkey arse and preparing for it by making his players run 40 40-yard wind sprints daily.
In Cam's first year as offensive coordinator.........
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In April, we broke down how LSU's offense led the nation in third-down efficiency last season by converting for a first down or touchdown 57.1 percent of the time.
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One of the two April posts focused on the need for the Tigers' quarterbacks to play efficiently. Let's face it, whoever wins the starting job -- whether it's freshman Brandon Harris or sophomore Anthony Jennings -- he's not going to zing third-down completions like Mettenberger did last year.
The fifth-year senior's 96.7 Total Quarterback Rating on third down trailed only that of Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston (96.9) among FBS quarterbacks. Mettenberger was 58-for-89 for 974 yards, nine touchdowns and one interception on third down according to ESPN Stats & Information. Of those 58 completions, 21 went for 20 yards or more -- a total that was second only to Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater (22).
Talented though they may be, a green freshman and a sophomore with one shaky start under his belt are not going to match that kind of passing production.
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The question isn't which LSU player replaces Landry's absurd production on third down. It's highly unlikely that one player will do that -- not this fall anyhow -- seeing as how Landry ranked third in the FBS in third-down receptions (28), second in receiving yards (474) and tied for first with six touchdown catches according to ESPN Stats & Information.
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Hill was arguably the nation's most explosive third-down back in 2013, leading the FBS with an average of 13.28 yards per carry on third down according to ESPN Stats & Information. Although dozens of players carried the ball more times on third down than Hill's 18 attempts, he ranked 10th nationally with 239 yards thanks in large part to his touchdown runs of 37, 49 and 69 yards.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:32 pm to Guava Jelly
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As has been established too many times in this thread LSU is consistently among the conference leaders in TOP (about 31 minutes-per-game).
This is just incorrect.
You had a good TOP in 2014. You were 2nd in the SEC, and #9 nationally.
In 2013, you were #7 in the SEC behind Florida, MSU, Bama, Vandy, Arkansas and Auburn. You were #57 nationally.
In 2012, you were #3 in the SEC, but #46 nationally.
In 2011, you were #3 in the SEC, but #26 nationally.
In 2010, you were #8 in the SEC, and #57 nationally.
In 2009, you were #11 in the SEC, and #107 nationally.
That works out to an average of #6 in the SEC, and #50 in the nation. That's pretty much the definition of mediocre. And it certainly can't support a contention that Chavis's consistently excellent defenses owe anything to being overly rested thanks to the offense.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:33 pm to texag7
We'll meet you this season at the corner of 3rd and Chavis. One of us will remain standing.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:37 pm to Old Sarge
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We had a down year last year. So there really isn't enough data to prove this.
As did LSU, let's go back to 2013 vs SEC opponents
2013 Vs SEC Oppenents with a Heisman Trophy winning QB
Aggie...........38.3 PPG
LSU..............32.25 PPG
with a Heisman QB Sumlins O was 6.05ppg better than Miles in SEC play. One score
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:38 pm to Dlab2013
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Dlab2013
^^^^^look above^^^^^
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:48 pm to Dlab2013
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with a Heisman QB Sumlins O was 6.05ppg better than Miles in SEC play. One score
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:49 pm to texag7
WOW!!!!!!!!
The denial is strong in this one.
The denial is strong in this one.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:49 pm to texag7
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texag7
Seriously TAMU/ole miss are the only teams that had a chance to march down and tie/win the game late that didnt do it in the last few years.
His D was awesome all game then last drive he goes into bitch mode. Look at Alabama game for a perfect example. shite last 2 Alabama @LSU games
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:54 pm to Mirthomatic
You can't just change the conversation to fit your argument, pop. An Ag fan introduced the idea that Chavis's defenses struggle on third downs late in close games because they're too exhausted to play man coverage on pass plays.
I pointed out that his defenses are plenty rested compared to their Ag counterparts.
I pointed out that his defenses are plenty rested compared to their Ag counterparts.
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