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re: Disappointed in Nick Fairley and Auburn at end of Georgia game

Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:00 am to
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They've coached him to form tackle, which is what he's doing.


Somewhere in football 101, I missed that form tackling:

- was lowering your helmet into a stationary and defenseless QB
- body slamming a QB after the whistle
- leveling a QB on a play that had been blown dead and no one else was moving.

Got it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88701 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:01 am to
quote:

To be fair, UGA had a lot of fun with Brodie in 2003. Karma's a bitch


In 2003, we put Brodie and Pennington out of the game, but they were on LEGAL, textbook hits that were 100% within the rules of the game. There was no foul play or leading with the helmet or late hits or anything like that.

Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
16463 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:02 am to
Posted by kage
ATL
Member since Feb 2010
4068 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:40 am to
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He's not going to change anything. That's what I've been saying. Heck, reading this thread, you'd think he's the dirtiest player to ever play the game. He's dirty, but not the dirtiest. He's not even the dirtiest to play at Auburn.


I'm just curious on this, do you think it's dirty if it's not illegal? Like I said, it's debatable if it's necessary, but as of now, it's a legal play.

I think you'll get arguments both ways. Some will say it's too much and driving the QB into the ground isn't right. Some will say that's how a tackle should be made and that's how you're taught to finish a tackle.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23289 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:50 am to
Hopefully this will drive his draft stock down so much the Saints can pick him with the 32nd pick in next year's NFL draft.
Posted by TowandaTiger
Towanda Ks.
Member since Sep 2010
505 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:51 am to
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I'm just curious on this, do you think it's dirty if it's not illegal?
After re-reading some of your posts on this subject, I think you're a little bit mislead.

1) A good, hard driving, clean tackle is one where you wrap up the ball carrier/QB, keep your legs driving and finish it off....presumably with the player being tackled going backwards.

2) What Fairley is doing is different. He's wrapping up the QB, then ELEVATING him and DRIVING him into the ground.

1) is legal and considered clean "form tackling".

2) is currently legal but certainly NOT considered clean.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 12:14 pm
Posted by arlo
Member since Oct 2007
12376 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:00 pm to
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In 2003, we put Brodie and Pennington out of the game, but they were on LEGAL, textbook hits that were 100% within the rules of the game. There was no foul play or leading with the helmet or late hits or anything like that.


Good example of it mattering whose ox is getting gored. The play that put Brodie out was a safety blitz piledriver two steps after the ball was gone. If you're bitching about Fairley, you'd be bitching about that hit also.

ETA: See Towanda #2 above.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 12:02 pm
Posted by IHateOrange
Gadsden
Member since Jan 2007
635 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:04 pm to
Wow, the "family" is really circling the wagon today. Things have gotten too tense on the plains it appears.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Wow, the "family" is really circling the wagon today. Things have gotten too tense on the plains it appears.


A bit of that yes. I think Most Auburn fans admit Fairley's hit in the knee was bad though we don't believe it was intential, in that he wanted to injure him. The hit in the back they penalized him, at that time Rocker should have had a discussion with him.

The Refs let that game get way out of hand, and both coaches as well. Richt wants his team to play on the ragged edge, and Chizik to an extent as well, but this is what you get when the Refs and coaches don't get it under control.
Posted by TowandaTiger
Towanda Ks.
Member since Sep 2010
505 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:21 pm to
Look, Auburn plays dirty and always has. The Georgia players should have been better prepared. The dirty play by Fairley and others really pissed off the Georgia players and coaches, including Richt. That's why we all saw the running play at the end, directed right at Fairley with the entire Georgia team taking shots at him.

Cheap shots beget acknowledging cheap shots. - That's what happened.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:35 pm to
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If the legue wants to cut down on hits like that, have the officials be more vigilant and throw the flag. It is hard to tell a kid he did something wrong if the zebras don't flag him for it.


He got flagged for the spear in the back and other players have been suspended by the NCAA for the same.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:38 pm to
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I-59 Tiger
Should not be a Vanderbilt fan as I am the only Vanderbilt fan on this board
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4155 posts
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:39 pm to
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To be fair to Taylor, it looked like he was trying to get Fairly back to the sideline, and Fairly stupidly thought he was giving him a high five.


They didn't catch it on TV but after Trooper caught up with him he started shoving him towards the sideline. Troop did not look pleased.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4815 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:58 am to
The chin rake is not wrong?
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:04 am to
quote:

The chin rake is not wrong?


Helmets stuck together.
Posted by BurnBurnBurn
Saraland, Al
Member since Oct 2007
324 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:14 am to
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The Georgia players should have been better prepared.


Like the intentional Chop Block long before Fairley even touched the precious QB??
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:16 am to
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I've yet to see anyone other than an AU poster mention anything about UGA playing rough and dirty and in some cases instigating the incidents.


Just STFU!!! Has auburn ever done anything wrong that they weren't justified in doing because of the way someone else acted? Fairley has played dirty all season and everyone outside of Lee county and the SEC office knows it. While what he does in most cases is not a penalty it completely flies in the face of sportsmanship. I have no problem with players playing hard and hitting QBs, but when on play after play you hit the QB and then pick them up and with all your force drive their shoulder into the ground while landing on them with all your weight the only thing you are trying to accomplish is to hurt the QB. Even Danielson has mentioned it at least twice this year and I have seen it at least 6 or 7 times. It's amazing me that great players like Suh and Glenn Dorsey could play and terrorize QBs and when they hit them avoid power driving them into the ground with the intent to injury, but au has two great players and both IMO are scum of the earth.
Posted by DawgFARKer
Sandestin
Member since Dec 2009
4845 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:42 am to
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Nick Fairley is a thug, plain and simple.


This
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4815 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:42 am to
Bull
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:46 am to
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BarnBarnBarn




Pretty sure the chop block was after the first late hit, and/or chin rake.



but thanks for playing! keep drinking the juice
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