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re: Did A&Ms success in SEC and recent recruiting boom help existing sec teams?
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:42 pm to TooCold
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:42 pm to TooCold
who's hating? the thread 'Did A&Ms success in SEC and recent recruiting boom help existing sec teams?' i commented you had 1 good season. i guess i should say yes oh yes a&m thank you so much for...?????
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Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:48 pm to WhiskeyBent
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Then what the hell are you arguing about - It was a good year, I have never said more than that.
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Teams lower in the SEC might get more luck on the SEC team sales pitch as the brand increases. Maybe see lower teams getting better and taking top recruits from other conferences.
In the past decade aTm has gone:
4-8
7-5
5-6
9-4
7-6
4-8
6-7
9-4
7-6
11-2
But one good season makes all those losing seasons go away and elevates aggy to "top tier", aggy logic at its finest.
As far as FM's buzz, I guess Ole Miss is now going to overtake Kentucky in basketball due to the coverage about Henderson...
Posted on 6/11/13 at 1:56 pm to piggilicious
no. maybe give an opinion on the question posted.
Regarding the good year thing I dont understand why so many people jump on that topic like white on rice. It was a good year. In fact I would claim it was a great year. One more win an Ags are in the Natty. Not much room in the middle.
I as a fan will take a year like this a call it a great year. Getting to the Natty game is phenomenal year.
A&M is not LSU or Bama - so this is a great year. For most SEC teams I would think winning a heisman, and #5 final ranking is a great year. I think it would be a great year for Ark. I think it would be a great yea for every team other than LSU and Bama - but the Heisman addition might even make them ok with that year.
All the hate about 3rd in Division is amazing. We brag on the strength of the SEC and know that 2nd in west can = Natty.
So A&M should be referred to as #5 in Nation if Bama is considered Natty. If we go by only conference LSU is best team that year and Bama has a moral victory for finishing 2nd in division.
But people love to say 3rd in division. Love it.
How many times have you bested that in the SEC?
Regarding the good year thing I dont understand why so many people jump on that topic like white on rice. It was a good year. In fact I would claim it was a great year. One more win an Ags are in the Natty. Not much room in the middle.
I as a fan will take a year like this a call it a great year. Getting to the Natty game is phenomenal year.
A&M is not LSU or Bama - so this is a great year. For most SEC teams I would think winning a heisman, and #5 final ranking is a great year. I think it would be a great year for Ark. I think it would be a great yea for every team other than LSU and Bama - but the Heisman addition might even make them ok with that year.
All the hate about 3rd in Division is amazing. We brag on the strength of the SEC and know that 2nd in west can = Natty.
So A&M should be referred to as #5 in Nation if Bama is considered Natty. If we go by only conference LSU is best team that year and Bama has a moral victory for finishing 2nd in division.
But people love to say 3rd in division. Love it.
How many times have you bested that in the SEC?
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:03 pm to WhiskeyBent
i made 2 comments and you've replied to me with all that jazz that didn't come from me in the first place.
it was a good (great whatever) year one removed from suckdom- that's my point one year. in 5 or 10 maybe we can say oh thank you a&m for blessing us with your presence but as for now- i got nothing.
it was a good (great whatever) year one removed from suckdom- that's my point one year. in 5 or 10 maybe we can say oh thank you a&m for blessing us with your presence but as for now- i got nothing.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:09 pm to DaleDenton
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In the past decade aTm has gone: 4-8 7-5 5-6 9-4 7-6 4-8 6-7 9-4 7-6 11-2 But one good season makes all those losing seasons go away and elevates aggy to "top tier", aggy logic at its finest. As far as FM's buzz, I guess Ole Miss is now going to overtake Kentucky in basketball due to the coverage about Henderson...
In the past decade, Arky has gone:
9-4
5-6
4-7
10-4
8-5
5-7
8-5
5-7
8-5
10-3
11-2
4-8
You have had as many losing seasons over the past decade as we have, so please get the frick off your pedestal.
Also, we are 24th all time in win percentage and you are 26th, so spare us the holier than thou attitude.
The point of the OP was that bringing in Texas A&M coupled with the additional exposure of the conference as a whole based upon the year that we had, has improved the brand and probably opened up homes of recruits who perhaps were not considering going out of Texas beforehand. I think that is a fair point. It probably isn't helping Arky out because, well, you're Arky. So I can understand your frustration, but I would encourage you not to be so emotional and look at things a little more logically.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:10 pm to piggilicious
inrecruiting terms texas a&m w/o a doubt is and will make a huge contribution to the sec, Missouri on the other hand,,,,,yikes!
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:10 pm to WhiskeyBent
LSU already had a huge recruiting footprint in East Texas, (and let's face it, that's where the black kids live), so if anything it hurt the Tigers slightly by opening the door to Texas for the rest of the SEC. We haven't seen that yet but its coming.
Schools like Arkie and Tennesse really have to bring in out of state talent so I'll call them the big winners. But the big losers are the Longhorns, and no one deserves it more.
Schools like Arkie and Tennesse really have to bring in out of state talent so I'll call them the big winners. But the big losers are the Longhorns, and no one deserves it more.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:15 pm to mkh251
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nrecruiting terms texas a&m w/o a doubt is and will make a huge contribution to the sec
'will' perhaps, 'is'???
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:22 pm to piggilicious
sorry in Alabama we don't have the best "grammar"
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:23 pm to mkh251
this is my last post in this thread- i must be speaking greek.
i wasn't correcting your grammar. i was saying they may prove to be beneficial in the future for recruiting but i don't know about now.
i wasn't correcting your grammar. i was saying they may prove to be beneficial in the future for recruiting but i don't know about now.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:25 pm to piggilicious
agreed-but what do you think about Missouri, how beneficial can that state be?
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:27 pm to gnarkill1529
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JFF goes down and yall will probably join that elite group
This. Sumlin = less successful Gene Chizik.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:29 pm to mkh251
okay this is now my last post
i'm not sure on mizzou. i hope they turn stuff around tho- truthfully i do.
what do you think?
i'm not sure on mizzou. i hope they turn stuff around tho- truthfully i do.
what do you think?Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:30 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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This. Sumlin = less successful Gene Chizik
It is idiotic statements like this that make it impossible for to have reasonable discussions.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:33 pm to WhiskeyBent
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But people love to say 3rd in division. Love it.
How many times have you bested that in the SEC?
Well, we've won the division 3 times.
Finished 2nd in 2010 which resulted in a BCS bowl.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:36 pm to TooCold
His 4-8 record in C-USA and lack of conference titles should convince me otherwise?
Hell, at least Gene won an NC with his JFF caliber superstar. Nice Cotton Bowl KS.
Hell, at least Gene won an NC with his JFF caliber superstar. Nice Cotton Bowl KS.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:39 pm to TooCold
Pig, if JFF goes down - yes we have issues. Congrats, a team loses Heisman winning QB goes down team takes a hit. Genious - and you would probably throw a party.
But Sumlin is building an SEC title contending program. We are 2 years away from having as many top recruits as anybody. We dont have the depth yet but we will. We are getting DL and Corners we always lost to Texas. Our OL success is clear and we will have another top 5 OL pick. Maybe 2 first rounders. Our RBs are sick as are our receivers. We are grabbing the #1QB pro style in Nation. Who will fight for job with other top QB's.
As for Mizzou - I dont know what to think. They were able to put together a few good teams that certainly could give SEC teams all they wanted in the past. I am not sure where they are with this. That is a good question. I would think they are getting better?
The program is shaping up bump you down a notch for sure.
But Sumlin is building an SEC title contending program. We are 2 years away from having as many top recruits as anybody. We dont have the depth yet but we will. We are getting DL and Corners we always lost to Texas. Our OL success is clear and we will have another top 5 OL pick. Maybe 2 first rounders. Our RBs are sick as are our receivers. We are grabbing the #1QB pro style in Nation. Who will fight for job with other top QB's.
As for Mizzou - I dont know what to think. They were able to put together a few good teams that certainly could give SEC teams all they wanted in the past. I am not sure where they are with this. That is a good question. I would think they are getting better?
The program is shaping up bump you down a notch for sure.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:42 pm to TooCold
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Texas A&M coupled with the additional exposure of the conference as a whole based upon the year that we had, has improved the brand and probably opened up homes of recruits who perhaps were not considering going out of Texas beforehand.
These recruits would be?
Like I already listed the schools:
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Okie State
Kansas
K-State
Oregon
Boise
Mizzou
etc
Have all had Texas kids on their rosters, for a while now, the real question is if this moves limits aTm's recruiting to primarily/only Texas, that strategy hasn't worked out for Texas who has had their pick of the litter for far longer than aTm.
Ole Miss, Arkansas, Ms. State and LSU are the closest to aTm, all of these schools have been able to snag recruits from Alabama, Georgia, and South Florida, the real question is if being in the SEC allows aTm to branch out to these areas with any amount of success.
Everyone has been recruiting Texas for a while now, this isn't all the sudden a new thing because aTm had their first 10+ win season in a decade+.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:43 pm to WhiskeyBent
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But Sumlin is building an SEC title contending program.
Oh, Aggy. You never disappoint.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:53 pm to Arkansasrazorback
What about the Mizzou topic.
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