re: Did A&Ms success in SEC and recent recruiting boom help existing sec teams?

No and yes. It has mostly benefited A&M but it will also benefit other SEC schools as prospects get to know the conference and know they can be wildly successful in it.

A&M has a long way to go before they break out of being lower tier -- lower tier is for n00bs/those with no history to back up being upper tier. They may well earn their way out sooner rather than later but a single good year isn't enough. (A good team for now but not yet upper tier in the SEC).

Those programs that've fallen on hard times have seen their stock rise due to tradition and great coaching hires. However, having a footprint in Texas will pay dividends for all SEC schools.

Actually in reality...you prob fricked yourselves last year. Had you not been in the SEC...you might have made it to the Natty against Bama. As far as helping the image of the SEC....LOL....the SECs' been rolling way before JFF was out of middle school. Nice sentiment though.

All I am saying is that the A&M JFF /State of Texas story has added to the SEC marketing. That you cant deny. Im just saying the come play in the SEC sale is getting stronger every year.

For example - lets say there is a high 3 star player or 4 star in Texas - who A&M likes but doesnt have room for. Lets say Texas has offered. That normally would be a no brainer. But with the Texas addition of SEC coverage. Some of these guys might want to go say to Kentucky, Ole Miss, Tenn. for instance instead of Texas.

Just an example but that is the only point I am making. Whether you want to act like the A&M story isnt a big one and that is your right. But turn on your tv once a try to not see Sumlin or JFF. Its alot of marketing power. and the story surrounds going to the SEC. That is what kids hear.

No it wasnt a Natty - but Ags will be ok with a top 5 national fininsh. And a Route of OU. Ill take that. But this is not my point My point is even more SEC on TV.

I think by a&m joining the sec they just took a whole lot of texas recruits from the University of Texas; as far as these recruits being more exposed and possibly coming to other sec schools heck ya; with the tv market broadening in the state of Texas I think there is no way this cant help other sec school's recruiting

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For example - lets say there is a high 3 star player or 4 star in Texas - who A&M likes but doesnt have room for. Lets say Texas has offered.

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Stopped right there.

Tell me all these players from last year and before that went to aTm over Texas when they had a commitable Texas offer.

List should be of manageable proportions...

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A&M is crushing Texas and OU. Look it up yourself.

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Again, aggy, there is more to being above your third tier place than good-decent one year performances.

Ole Miss had a top ten recruiting class last year, do you honestly think that is the norm for Ole Miss?

Top 5 National ranking.

Going by your logic, Bama finishing 2nd in west should be a moral victory for Bama. That is a logical fact.

But the bowls count. So Bama wins the Natty. Or just a 2nd in division moral victory?

So A&M crushes OU and ends up #5 in Nation.

I think finishing 10-2, winning a Heisman, beating Bama at Bama, crushing OU and finishing #5 is a good season.

Ark fan tell me how many years you have done better?

and how can anyone think that is not a good year if you are not LSU or Bama.

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I made a simple point I believe to be true. In fact I am pretty certain it will prove to be true. If you dont agree fine.

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You are narrowing the scope of the impact aTm being in the SEC is versus just Texas, typical for an aggy, while ignoring how all the conference moves will end up having an impact in regards to Texas recruiting.

You are ignoring the SEC presence in regards to OU recruiting North Texas, you are ignoring the presence LSU had in east Texas before the conference realignment, you are ignoring how Mizzou's move to the SEC will affect their Texas recruiting, you are ignoring Nebraska's move to the B1G, you are ignoring the other Texas teams who have now moved up to the FBS level, you are ignoring the impact of OSU making a BCS bowl and being in an all time high as far as their program is concerned, you are ignoring Kansas and K-State's presence in Texas, you are ignoring the presence Boise and Oregon have had in Texas, etc.

The point of your post seems to be a circle jerk thread about how aTm's move the the SEC is going to hurt Texas, no one gives a shite about Texas here.

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you had 'a good year' but that's what it was 'a' good year

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The perspective of how a team finishes is mostly based upon the expectation going in. Based upon the expectation from not only us, but just about everyone, was that we would have a very very tough time finishing above .500. Based upon that expectation, is was a great year.

Don't know why the hogs have so much hatred, but it is pretty funny.