re: Detailed thoughts about cheating and paying for recruits, etc.

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I’m not going to say Auburn is historically clean, but Alabama acting like they don’t cheat is silly. The upper echelon of the REC exists for a reason.

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I think that highly depends on 2 things. #1 what do you consider cheating. Is any NCAA infraction cheating? Not in my opinion. If a guy is getting a $100 handshake after a game, and things like that - I don't care. I understand why the NCAA has to do what they do, and why schools should stop it. Don't disagree with the penalties for it happening. But that's not what I consider cheating.

If something can be generally deemed a "hook up", it's probably not real cheating. Meals and such, not cars and houses.

And yes, that kind of stuff happens at every college in the country.

Cheating is when you are buying players to come to your school over another school.

And #2 the time period. I think that was probably more prevalent in the past and is mostly history - at least for top big money schools.

Schools have learned that they are better served spending big money on their facilities and building in extra perks. You can't buy that recruit an x-box, but you can build a room with a bunch of x-boxes and other shite for the players. And it's way more than just x-boxes.

Players legally can get around $30k a year. Even with the scholarship they are still eligible for grants if they qualify. And then they are given the stipends. If they live off campus, they are given money for that. If they have families, they are given money for that. And on top of all that, they are still eligible for student loans.

The "Poor college scholarship athlete" is a myth, and it's all above the table.

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Oh please. We both know there is a story here whether you want to admit it. Rush probst may not be the best messenger but that doesn’t mean he’s lying in this case. .

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So what you are saying is that Ohio State has to have hard proof to be guilty, but speculation by and known liar is good enough for the SEC?


And Probst? How in the world would he know anything about Nick Chubb? Probst had absolutely nothing to do with Chubb or his recruitment, and certainly wouldn't know anything about Chubb's dealings with Georgia 3 years into his college career.

Chubb said it best when he said that if he needed money he would have gone pro. Do you honestly believe that Chubb needed money so he turned down millions of dollars with the pros to take $200,000 to stay in college?

You're delusional.

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Certainly not on the scale of hundreds of thousands of dollars for players,

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And I will ask you again...who got caught paying players hundreds of thousands of dollars? Nobody made you make that claim. Own it and answer the question.

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Jim tressel had espn and sports illustrated camped out in Columbus for a month trying to crack the story of comped tattoos and rigged raffles. This story? Crickets

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You still sticking with your assertion that Tressel was gotten just because of some comped tattoos, or do you want to admit you lied about that, too?

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Detailed thoughts about cheating and paying for recruits, etc.
Nobody gives a f*ck.

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I agree. It's time to pay the players.

but also.....


....I hope the NCAA comes in and fricking wrecks all of your programs after some of the nothingburgers they got Ole Miss for.

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It's time to pay the players.

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They get compensated enough.

The problem is how these monopoly/super teams of Alabama, Clemson and Ohio St have been allowed to be built by the NCAA. It’s killing college football.

Kirby is going out guns-a-blazing trying to get Georgia there because she knows the NCAA doesn’t give a shite, and they only need a cash cow team for them to make some money.

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LSU has overwhelming talent, should the NCAA go get them as well? TAMU is collecting elite bodies now and is on the verge of joining "super team talent."

You just mentioned ALABAMA in the SEC, why is that?

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I'm not agreeing with the guy you're replying to but to compare the talent at Alabama to that at A&M or LSU is disingenuous at best.

2020 Roster Breakdown

Alabama
5* 12
4* 58
3* 13

LSU
5* 7
4* 35
3* 25



Texas A&M
5* 4
4* 38
3* 37

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If your goal is not to be disingenuous why leave out Georgia?

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Because your point obviously applies to them but not to LSU and Texas A&M.

Even in 2019, there was still a disparity between Alabama and LSU.

2019 Roster Breakdown

Alabama

5* 11
4* 58
3* 13

Average: 93.18

LSU

5* 7
4* 44
3* 32

Average: 90.60

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The list had Clemson on it. Explain how Georgia, LSU can't compete with Clemson Talent?

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Not sure why you keep bringing up Georgia, I didn't bring them up, obviously they're loaded every year.

As to why LSU can't compete with Clemson, I'm not sure what you mean? I recall LSU beating them soundly the last time we matched up.

2020 Roster Breakdown

Clemson

5* 11
4* 35
3* 32

LSU

5* 7
4* 34
3* 25

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Not sure why you keep bringing up Georgia, I didn't bring them up, obviously they're loaded every year.

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Because I brought them up to make my point. You decided to jump in, so it's your problem now.

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As to why LSU can't compete with Clemson, I'm not sure what you mean? I recall LSU beating them soundly the last time we matched up.

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Yet the argument I was refuting was saying that Clemson, being one of the super teams, is killing college football So, now you want to make my argument that Georgia, LSU can indeed compete with one of the super teams killing college football.

So, I'll be more than happy to repeat my point, Clemson was beating the shite out of Ohio State when the buckeyes clearly are getting higher-ranked recruits. LSU can't shut up about having the greatest team since they were making footballs out of pork. Georgia can't find themselves in the playoff and they have as much talent as anyone. Certainly more than LSU, TAMU, Clemson, and on at least even par with Ohio State.

If the discussion is overwhelming talent, lots of teams have overwhelming talent. Not overwhelming results. Who's fault is that?