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re: Describe the Ar-Kansas Hit
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:18 pm to ocelot4ark
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:18 pm to ocelot4ark
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So the consensus is that he was ejected for celebrating?
I sent Steve Shaw a text....I'll let you know if he responds.
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:22 pm to tigahfromtheham
The more I watch it, the less sure I am he was even calling for a fair catch.
This post was edited on 10/29/11 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:22 pm to ocelot4ark
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So we've got kick-catch interference for the actual hit (wasn't called).
It was called, "ranter."
It was declined because the Arky trash was too busy celebrating and the ball was picked up by another Vandy player and returned for 30+ yards.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:23 pm to WonderWartHawg
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The more I watch it, the less sure I am he was even calling for a fair catch.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:23 pm to WonderWartHawg
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The more I watch it, the less I am even convinced he was even calling for a fair catch.
I'm failing to see how calling for a fair catch makes any difference.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:23 pm to WonderWartHawg
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The more I watch it, the less sure I am he was even calling for a fair catch.
What if he didn't? Wow your whole fanbase is a collective piece of shite.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:25 pm to JonTheTigerFan
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What if he didn't? Wow your whole fanbase is a collective piece of shite.
I guess you weren't around whining about how Chad Jones' leading with the helmet on a defenseless receiver was "a fair hit"...
Insecure hypocrites, the lot of ya.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:29 pm to DaleDenton
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I guess you weren't around whining about how Chad Jones' leading with the helmet on a defenseless receiver was "a fair hit"...
No I wasn't. I also didn't see Jones or his teammates thumping his chest and celebrating after the hit.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:30 pm to tigahfromtheham
shielding eyes? maybe-maybe not, but this hand doesn't "wave"
this is as high as his left hand gets for the "fair catch" while barely waving. the hand has to be above his shoulder for it to be a valid FC. still indeterminable from the Arky players POV IMO
preparing to catch. Arky defender THINKS he is about to catch the ball without calling for FC
oh shite. PR sees Arky guy. Arky guy has lowered his head like an idiot, but he still thinks he may be timing his hit correctly.
Contact without the ball. ILLEGAL!! CAN"T DO THAT shite!! but its not the first time this shite has happened. The Arky guy doesn't appear to be lunging with his helmet, either. He put his head down like an idiot but made contact below the Vandy player's helmet.The reason the helmets are even touching in this picture is due to the whiplash effect of the hit.
The play was illegal because the Arky player hit the Vandy defender before the ball arrived. If the Arky player did not see the Vandy player wave for a FC, he is going to try and time the hit based on when he THINKS the ball is going to arrive. The Vandy player appeared to be attempting a catch, so the Arky player thinks he is timing it correctly. This type of hit happens from time to time b/c the defenders cannot see where the ball is. I do not think the play alone is an offense worthy of ejection. The rule is a penalty, which is what he received.
This post was edited on 10/29/11 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:31 pm to DaleDenton
As some have stated, this hitting the returner before he gets the ball does happen. However, looks like the ejection occurred, because Wade gets up after knocking the Vandy player out, then proceeds to celebrate while the guy is on the ground after getting what looks to be a concussion. First off, why celebrate hitting a defenseless player? Then why celebrate when it was actually a penalty that your hit caused? Then, why celebrate when you just knocked someone the frick out when they didn't even have a chance to defend themselves? Ejection was warranted even if it's not the norm. This dude was bitching his own coaches out as they escorted him to the locker room. Wade really thought he was a champion after that play. If Wade turns around, sees the player down and actually feels remorse for screwing up and causing a player to get hurt, he doesn't get ejected.
This post was edited on 10/29/11 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:31 pm to DaleDenton
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I'm failing to see how calling for a fair catch makes any difference.
It would make a hell of a lot of difference in trying to determine what Wade was thinking.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:34 pm to WonderWartHawg
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It would make a hell of a lot of difference in trying to determine what Wade was thinking.
I think he was pre-occupied with his studies, after all mid-terms are coming up. He seems like a hell of a good kid.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:38 pm to mla0003
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he is going to try and time the hit based on when he THINKS the ball is going to arrive
Weird. Most players actually wait for the ball TO arrive before deciding to hit the PR.
This post was edited on 10/29/11 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:39 pm to bomber77
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I think he was pre-occupied with his studies, after all mid-terms are coming up. He seems like a hell of a good kid.
No, that was most likely what the returner was thinking about when he stepped into that.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:39 pm to mla0003
I agree with your assessment. Those plays do happen from time to time when the gunners get the timing screwed. I think the returner may have had difficulty seeing the ball and the defenders closing in on him.
The thing that made it flagrant was Wade's POS reaction to the play. Ejection was justified. No remorse for likely giving a player a concusion and the potential long term consequences from that.
The thing that made it flagrant was Wade's POS reaction to the play. Ejection was justified. No remorse for likely giving a player a concusion and the potential long term consequences from that.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:40 pm to mla0003
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If a guy is about to catch a punt and it isn't clear whether he made a FC signal then he is free game.
Yeah. After the receiver catches the fricking punt.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:41 pm to mla0003
U real stupid.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:41 pm to joeyb147
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Weird. Most players actually wait for the ball TO arrive before deciding to hit the PR.
not always. a lot of times the defender tries to time his hit. you do realize the Arky player cannot see the ball, right?
all he can see is the vandy player looking like he is about to catch the ball while running full speed from 4 yards away
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:42 pm to cyde
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Yeah. After the receiver catches the fricking punt.
no shite, thats why there was a penalty
Posted on 10/29/11 at 3:43 pm to WonderWartHawg
Arkansas staff doesnt have a hair on their ball sacks if they dont really punish this thug. Not for the idiotic hit or punk celebration.
The way he conducted himself on the sideline, in the coaches faces etc. Who knows what the frick this retard said to them. Finally a coach has to grab him by the scruff of his neck and drag his sorry arse kicking and screaming to the locker room. A team cant put up with that shite. It needs to be something more severe than Petino leaving a post it note on his locker imo.
The way he conducted himself on the sideline, in the coaches faces etc. Who knows what the frick this retard said to them. Finally a coach has to grab him by the scruff of his neck and drag his sorry arse kicking and screaming to the locker room. A team cant put up with that shite. It needs to be something more severe than Petino leaving a post it note on his locker imo.
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