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re: Denard Robinson vs Alabama D
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:37 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:37 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Florida's D was good but not great
Defense.. NFL players from 2008 and 2009 squads
Major Wright - Starter
Joe Haden - Starter
Janoris Jenkins - Starter
Spikes- Starter
Dunlap - Starter
Cunningham - Great preseason.. Possible starter
Ahmad Black - 2nd String
Trauttou - Practice Squad
Yep that D just got lucky.
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:38 am to G8RnGA
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Defense.. NFL players from 2008 and 2009 squads
Major Wright - Starter
Joe Haden - Starter
Janoris Jenkins - Starter
Spikes- Starter
Dunlap - Starter
Cunningham - Great preseason.. Possible starter
Ahmad Black - 2nd String
Trauttou - Practice Squad
Yep that D just got lucky.
Yeah...I was about to say...didn't Florida have a Top 5 defense in 2008?
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:38 am to Buckeye06
No the OSU is right, Saban lost his OC and had to scrape the bottom of the barrel and settle for some junk arse OC and now they are going to suck 
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:39 am to cajunsack
I dont know about anyone else, but I chuckled at the op.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:41 am to Buckeye06
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There were multiple 1st round guys from those Florida defenses. They were very good in 2006 and 2008. Mattison was at least in part a reason for those teams successes.
absolutely. those defenses were very very good. but they werent of the same caliber as the Bama defenses on the recent championship teams who were coached by the other coach we are comparing. Plus, Mattison doesnt have any of the talent that he had at UF.
Also, can Denard run an offense that can keep the defense off the field long enough to catch their breath? Tebow would march up the field and punch it in after a 15 play, 7 minute drive. Denard is more boom or bust. The Michigan D is going to need time to rest after battling with the Bama OL. How many times could you line up against DJ Fluker before you need a break?
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:43 am to G8RnGA
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Yep that D just got lucky.
i said they were good. then later i said they were very very good. but they werent great. Nobody said they got lucky.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:45 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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i said they were good. then later i said they were very very good. but they werent great. Nobody said they got lucky.
So basically your argument is morphing as facts come out that don't back up prior statements. Ok got it.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:48 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Tebow that won those championships
Yep it was all Tebow.
Offensive players during that time on NFL rosters.
Demps - Gonna make team
Rainey - Gonna make team and contribute
Nelson - Starter
Murphy - Former starter... ?
Percy - Rookie of the year.. Starter
Ahern - Starter/pro bowler
Pouncy - Starter
Pouncy - Starter
Riley Cooper-Was playing for Jets
This post was edited on 8/31/12 at 9:51 am
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:54 am to G8RnGA
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So basically your argument is morphing as facts come out that don't back up prior statements
no dude. drink some coffee. wake up. try to follow along. I've said the whole time that the UF defenses were good. I never said they got lucky, thats what you said. Also, I never said Tebow did it all on his own. I said Tebow would lead his team on long drives that allowed the defense to rest, while Denard is more boom or bust and his defense doesnt get that same rest.
Did it make you feel better this morning to recall all the UF players from the last time they were actually good?
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:01 am to SECSolomonGrundy
I am up. Been up since 5:30 this morning geting stuff done before I head our for the mountains for a long weekend. I just stated a few actual facts to show you that your rather broad generalizations were off a little about those teams.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:06 am to cajunsack
It's the first game and there will be some kinks to work out with some new personnel, so DR will get some quality yards.....he is a seasoned and talented player.
With that said, second half adjustments are likely to keep him in check.
A disciplined defense is exactly how you defend someone like DR and there is no defense in the country more discplined than Saban's.
With that said, second half adjustments are likely to keep him in check.
A disciplined defense is exactly how you defend someone like DR and there is no defense in the country more discplined than Saban's.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:08 am to Buckeye06
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Do you recall the time they played in Atlanta before that?
It's like people forget that Meyer beat Saban the year before for the SEC title
Maybe you forgot Saban is 2-1 versus Meyer. Including two blowouts and a heart attack.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:09 am to Buckeye06
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Buckeye06
Denard Robinson vs Alabama D
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Lou the Jew from LSU
Did you watch that "clash" last night?
I did, in person. So, when you say that, "I'd say as of this year, Michigan's talent is comparable to South Carolina"...what you're saying is that Michigan is talented enough to eke out a 4 point win against Vandy in Nashville.
OK...I'll give you that.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:11 am to Buckeye06
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I would put Michigan's DC and OC against Bama's head to head and feel pretty good about my chances.
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Head coaches Saban is probably better, but Hoke is pretty good in his own right. The guy took Michigan from the crap they were 2 years ago to a pretty good football team last year (they shouldn't have been in a BCS game, but they were a legit top 15-20 squad)
What in the frick? Are three national titles not enough of an argument?
:rotflmao:
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:21 am to RollTide1987
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Al Borges had one good year as the OC at Auburn when he had 3 first round draft picks in the backfield. Any Auburn fan will tell you that his offenses from 2005-2007 were anemic.
Actually, the offense was more potent the year after all the 1st round draft picks, in 2005. More points averaged, and more yards averaged. Brandon Cox at QB, Kenny Irons at RB.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:24 am to achamb7
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More points averaged, and more yards averaged.
Not entirely true.
2004: 421 YPG, 32.1 PPG
2005: 410 YPG, 32.2 PPG
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:27 am to CapstoneGrad06
I can't wait for this pathetic excuse of a top ten matchup to be over and done with. It's being hyped up by the outlets, but it's going to be a blood bath. I'll probably quit watching after the second quarter. I'm just sick of hearing about it. Bama, just kick their arse, run their dicks in the dirt, go home, and celebrate like you just beat MSU.
This post was edited on 8/31/12 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:27 am to cajunsack
Alabama contained Cam Newton but he beat them with passing. Alabama will surely contain Robinson like they did Newton. One of the key differences between Newton and Robinson, though, is Robinson can't pass.
I won't be pulling for Alabama this weekend, but I will be pulling for a happy girlfriend (who is a UA grad). It's the best I can do.
I won't be pulling for Alabama this weekend, but I will be pulling for a happy girlfriend (who is a UA grad). It's the best I can do.
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:28 am to Buckeye06
quote:lol, that's great.
Head coaches Saban is probably better
Posted on 8/31/12 at 10:29 am to memphisplaya
The Michigan fans are acting like the VT fans in 2009. They were quiet most of the summer until a few days before the game. Then the shite talking started.
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