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Posted on 7/28/11 at 8:55 pm to ISDSTiger
I for one would love an LSU-FSU rivalry
Posted on 7/28/11 at 9:07 pm to LSUtigers111
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I for one would love an LSU-aTm rivalry
I like Tenn and Vandy moving the West, but having 18 members in the SEC is nuts.
Posted on 7/28/11 at 9:14 pm to LSUtigers111
I think simply add A&M and FSU. I dont see much benefit from adding any of the others.
Posted on 7/28/11 at 10:48 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:This exactly!!!!
I'm in favor of adding A&M to the West and another school in the East... or A&M/OU to the WEst and two schools in the East
But I do not want ANY CHANGES that require current SEC schools to switch divisions.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 9:02 am to JPLSU1981
i don't understand any expansion talk that doesn't include ga tech and unc.
ga tech has incredible academics and would IMMEDIATELY increase the stature and credibility of the conference. plus, they are good in basketball and baseball. not to mention the fact that they were in the progenitor of the sec for several decades.
unc brings in obvious basketball rep, great in baseball, good enough in football and also excellent academics. the sec would gain the triangle market as well. not to mention that they seem to be "southern" like sec schools.
a&m gets honorable mention because that school is huge, has tons of money and is strong in athletics
ga tech has incredible academics and would IMMEDIATELY increase the stature and credibility of the conference. plus, they are good in basketball and baseball. not to mention the fact that they were in the progenitor of the sec for several decades.
unc brings in obvious basketball rep, great in baseball, good enough in football and also excellent academics. the sec would gain the triangle market as well. not to mention that they seem to be "southern" like sec schools.
a&m gets honorable mention because that school is huge, has tons of money and is strong in athletics
Posted on 7/29/11 at 9:40 am to Ball Gravy
For some reason this bothers me, if you add 2 schools to the west(example OU and aTm). You would only move ONE school to the east, to make it 7 and 7. Same with any other theorized addition/division realignment, if you only add to one division, you have to move half of that number to another division.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 9:48 am to bfniii
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i don't understand any expansion talk that doesn't include ga tech and unc.
I agree with UNC and have suggested them, but I doubt that they would ever leave the ACC. WRT GaTech, it's about money and I can't imagine that any of the SEC schools would like writing (figuratively) a check to them so that they can pretend it makes them a better school.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:14 am to bfniii
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ga tech
There are two reasons GaTech will never receive an SEC invite:
1. They left the SEC, so they won't be allowed to come back
2. They bring nothing to the table financially that the conference doesn't already have ... The SEC already has Georgia, so adding GaTech isn't even necessary. The goal would be to make the overall pie bigger, and GaTech doesn't ... it just makes everyone's pieces smaller.
GaTech won't get an SEC invite.
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unc
Won't happen either... too many ties (Duke/NcState/etc)
The most realistic candidates for SEC invites are: TexA&M/OU/Missouri/FlSt/VaTech
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 10:20 am
Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:45 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:long, long time ago. things change.
They left the SEC, so they won't be allowed to come back
quote:that's not the only goal and it's not like ga tech would contribute nothing to the overall money
The goal would be to make the overall pie bigger, and GaTech doesn't
quote:those don't have to go away. they just won't be a part of their conference record. see: scar/clemson
too many ties (Duke/NcState/etc)
quote:the problem with these schools is the geography. they don't make sense in that respect compared to unc and ga tech. and they certainly don't bring the academics like unc and ga tech.
TexA&M/OU/Missouri
quote:fla st is a decent choice but not better than ga tech or unc. but, i agree they would be somewhat of a natural fit. va tech, meh. i'd rather have virginia. again, another market, great academics, good enough athletics. va tech, not so much.
FlSt/VaTech
Posted on 7/29/11 at 3:48 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Nobody will agree with me, but it would be smart to take aTm and OU and leave Texas to fend for themselves. Not that they can't do it, but their market power in Texas will be negatively affected if they were to lose aTm and OU and have to either join the Pac or go indy.
If OU wants to tie their existence to Texas and remain the little step child, fine, move to aTm and FSU and call it a day.
If OU wants to tie their existence to Texas and remain the little step child, fine, move to aTm and FSU and call it a day.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:30 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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I like Tenn and Vandy moving the West, but having 18 members in the SEC is nuts.
What about this?
1. Leave schools with a BCS championship in place.
2. Hold a lottery for the wannabes (no BCS crystal)
3. Rank wannabes according to lotto results, and toss out the low man on the totem pole as we find interesting replacements... i.e. new wannabes like OU, A&M, etc...
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:39 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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I like Tenn and Vandy moving the West, but having 18 members in the SEC is nuts.
I think 14 is pushing it.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:39 pm to ISDSTiger
Somebody tweet Sheridan to join Tigerdroppings!
that would be some classic threads now..

that would be some classic threads now..
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:57 pm to wmr
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wmr
Danny Sheridan: SEC will expand to 14 or 16
A Big12/SEC merger (which is what that feels like to me) would put Arkansas right in the middle of an expanded SEC West.
Upside to that for Arkansas is closer road games, and lots more traveling fans at our home games, meaning higher attendance. We probably have the lowest percentage of traveling fans of any SEC stadium right now.
That said, I am not in favor of expansion.
Keep it how it is, dammit.
The problem is no one cares about traveling fans there isn't any money in it. There is never more than 10,000 traveling rival fans anyhow. It's usually the norm.
Arkansas traveling is the exact same as other teams in our relative area.
Little Rock ,AR, by far the largest in-state alumni base, is only 350 miles from 6 SEC stadiums. Arkansas, Alabama, LSU, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and MSU.
When you have good teams people travel when you do not, they don't.
New Orleans, LA can only touch 4 schools in 350 miles. Ole miss, MSU, LSU and Alabama.
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 7/29/11 at 5:10 pm to Indianaag
Incredibly smug Dr Drunk.
Did they die when Arizona State and Oregon State came into the conference? No.
Prime example of a Texas fan and why they NEED to be independent. They are too good for everyone else and they want to suck their own dick.
Did they die when Arizona State and Oregon State came into the conference? No.
Prime example of a Texas fan and why they NEED to be independent. They are too good for everyone else and they want to suck their own dick.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 5:28 pm to LigerTiger
Just read this, it is hilarious!
Jim Rome's thoughts on Texas A&M University
Editor's note: The following is Jim Rome's thoughts on Texas A&M University that he broadcasted on national radio.
Thoughts on Texas A&M...
Fox Sports Show And Radio Host Jim Rome
1) They won't shut up. They have to go on about spirit, and old army, and red arse, and how bonfire represents the burning sensation they have in their urine to beat UT, and blah blah blah. Shut up. You start to get the feeling the entire school was built to spite UT.
2) Forget the fact that when the Texas Legislature back in the 1870's passed legislation to start a state university they also decided to have a subsidiary branch of the main school (University of Texas) that would teach agriculture and mechanics. Aggies love to say their school is older, from where they get that I don't know ... the fact is, the state intended A&M to be a branch of UT. They are like the afterbirth from the original creation. Like Danny Devito in "Twins".
3) So they apparently have this complex, so much so, that they must devote their entire school to trying to prove to UT that they are just as good. All the while, nobody at UT denies that A&M is a good school, yet they won't shut up. So they write a fight song ... about? ... Texas, and how they want to beat them. They have a Fish Camp for freshman where they tell them how bad Texas is and how good A&M and all its traditions are. It is the world's largest known case of penis envy, and it is manifested in everything A&M does.
4) The people at A&M. Now we all have friends who went to A&M or are at A&M. There are some nice people there. However ... There is the Corp. East Texas' answer to dreams of ROTC kids everywhere. For every boy scout who never learned to stop playing with his GI Joe Toys, there is the Corp. Now, forget the fact that A&M will actually let people with sub-par grades enroll if they agree to join the Corp. Forget the fact that the Corps looked like a Gestapo-hate rally while beating down students on Kyle Field in 1995. Forget the fact that along with the numerous hazing charges that have been filed against them, and swept under the rug over the years, they just this past month have had one Corps member bring charges against another Corps member who apparently had been propositioning others for a little actual sodomy. Not only could I go on with more instances of idiocracy by these Khaki-clad-shaven-headed-dorks, I am sure each of you have your own stories. The point is: We all respect West Point, Annapolis, The Air Force Academy; however, nobody respects the Corp. I imagine they are kind of the laughing stock of the military world. Just because you dress like the Army, and try and act like the Army, does not make you the Army. People at A&M don't even respect these clowns. It is not cool to shave your head and dress up. Halloween is only supposed to be one day of the year. If you want to carry guns and beat up civilians, move to Israel.
5) It is even less cool to slobber on somebody's daughter on national television and call it a tradition. Dry humping 18-year-old girls in the stands at football games is not cool. Not only is it not cool, it should be against the law. I know that in College Station, students are just prone to mount each other on the campus lawn, or in the middle of class, or anytime anything good happens you can just grab the girl sitting next to you and start sucking on her face. But everywhere else in the world, it is looked down upon. Especially if you are doing it on my TV. That is why we have moved the game from Thanksgiving. Because people across the nation were gagging on their turkey when in the middle of watching a football game, some boy scout is tongue thrashing some overweight co-ed during somebody's Thanksgiving dinner. We do not need to see burly women engaged in a suckfest every time your woeful offense manages to put points on the board. Some of these girls are in desperate need of a trip to the Clinique counter. Screw that, forget make-up, it is too late for that, just give them a veil.
6) "T.U." is not funny. It is not insulting. It is dumb. Just imagine if folks from Texas kept talking about M&A and giggling. That would not be funny. In fact, it would be retarded. That's why UT fans don't do it. Please learn.
7) You want to lose the image of country bumpkins, of a people fond of sheep, of people that aren't stupid? Then quit building things that fall down. Quit chasing cheerleaders around with swords on national TV. Quit whooping in church. Quit whooping period. Quit putting up scoreboards for the enjoyment of dead mammals. Quit spending your Friday nights practicing how to yell. Quit telling rape jokes to reporters when you're running for Governor. When you are filling out season ticket renewals, and the form asks for your phone number, h&w. quit putting 258-3999, Height 6'3", Weight 185. Just, collectively, stop making asses of yourselves. Go to East Texas, tour every small town, and ask every red neck with a fifth-grade education why they cheer for A&M and wear maroon. That is your fan base. This is why you are perceived by the educated masses as stupid.
8) Nobody cares if you think your band is better. They might be louder, they might march in neat little zig zags, but they have no musical ability. The point is, nobody cares who wins halftime. Quit getting geeked up about marching bands. I find it hard to believe you stood through your high school band's entire halftime performance. And why? Cause nobody cared then and nobody cares now. Plus, you can hear them fine sitting down even if you do care. Why is it cool all of a sudden now that you're in college?
9) Men should never let out high-pitched whooping sounds. Perhaps the only justifiable situation in which this can be tolerated is perhaps during an anal probe. Oh wait...I understand now.
10) Dogs are not ladies. They don't look or smell like ladies. Dogs eat their own feces and should be treated accordingly.
11) Finally, College Station is an arm-pit of a town. Quit pretending that it is a great college town. It is a town, and there is a college there. That should be the end of this comparison. If you feel that life doesn't get any better than the Dixie Chicken, and enjoy being stuck in a never-ending "Dukes of Hazard" episode, then move there. More importantly, don't move to Austin ... They are trying to create an educated, technological, and open-minded population base. Austin is, and will continue to be, the birthplace and final resting place of all that is cool.
As my friend, Stephen Johnson, once said: "If the world were ever to get an enema, College Station is where you would connect the hose." If you go to school at A&M, please don't be an Aggie.
Jim Rome's thoughts on Texas A&M University
Editor's note: The following is Jim Rome's thoughts on Texas A&M University that he broadcasted on national radio.
Thoughts on Texas A&M...
Fox Sports Show And Radio Host Jim Rome
1) They won't shut up. They have to go on about spirit, and old army, and red arse, and how bonfire represents the burning sensation they have in their urine to beat UT, and blah blah blah. Shut up. You start to get the feeling the entire school was built to spite UT.
2) Forget the fact that when the Texas Legislature back in the 1870's passed legislation to start a state university they also decided to have a subsidiary branch of the main school (University of Texas) that would teach agriculture and mechanics. Aggies love to say their school is older, from where they get that I don't know ... the fact is, the state intended A&M to be a branch of UT. They are like the afterbirth from the original creation. Like Danny Devito in "Twins".
3) So they apparently have this complex, so much so, that they must devote their entire school to trying to prove to UT that they are just as good. All the while, nobody at UT denies that A&M is a good school, yet they won't shut up. So they write a fight song ... about? ... Texas, and how they want to beat them. They have a Fish Camp for freshman where they tell them how bad Texas is and how good A&M and all its traditions are. It is the world's largest known case of penis envy, and it is manifested in everything A&M does.
4) The people at A&M. Now we all have friends who went to A&M or are at A&M. There are some nice people there. However ... There is the Corp. East Texas' answer to dreams of ROTC kids everywhere. For every boy scout who never learned to stop playing with his GI Joe Toys, there is the Corp. Now, forget the fact that A&M will actually let people with sub-par grades enroll if they agree to join the Corp. Forget the fact that the Corps looked like a Gestapo-hate rally while beating down students on Kyle Field in 1995. Forget the fact that along with the numerous hazing charges that have been filed against them, and swept under the rug over the years, they just this past month have had one Corps member bring charges against another Corps member who apparently had been propositioning others for a little actual sodomy. Not only could I go on with more instances of idiocracy by these Khaki-clad-shaven-headed-dorks, I am sure each of you have your own stories. The point is: We all respect West Point, Annapolis, The Air Force Academy; however, nobody respects the Corp. I imagine they are kind of the laughing stock of the military world. Just because you dress like the Army, and try and act like the Army, does not make you the Army. People at A&M don't even respect these clowns. It is not cool to shave your head and dress up. Halloween is only supposed to be one day of the year. If you want to carry guns and beat up civilians, move to Israel.
5) It is even less cool to slobber on somebody's daughter on national television and call it a tradition. Dry humping 18-year-old girls in the stands at football games is not cool. Not only is it not cool, it should be against the law. I know that in College Station, students are just prone to mount each other on the campus lawn, or in the middle of class, or anytime anything good happens you can just grab the girl sitting next to you and start sucking on her face. But everywhere else in the world, it is looked down upon. Especially if you are doing it on my TV. That is why we have moved the game from Thanksgiving. Because people across the nation were gagging on their turkey when in the middle of watching a football game, some boy scout is tongue thrashing some overweight co-ed during somebody's Thanksgiving dinner. We do not need to see burly women engaged in a suckfest every time your woeful offense manages to put points on the board. Some of these girls are in desperate need of a trip to the Clinique counter. Screw that, forget make-up, it is too late for that, just give them a veil.
6) "T.U." is not funny. It is not insulting. It is dumb. Just imagine if folks from Texas kept talking about M&A and giggling. That would not be funny. In fact, it would be retarded. That's why UT fans don't do it. Please learn.
7) You want to lose the image of country bumpkins, of a people fond of sheep, of people that aren't stupid? Then quit building things that fall down. Quit chasing cheerleaders around with swords on national TV. Quit whooping in church. Quit whooping period. Quit putting up scoreboards for the enjoyment of dead mammals. Quit spending your Friday nights practicing how to yell. Quit telling rape jokes to reporters when you're running for Governor. When you are filling out season ticket renewals, and the form asks for your phone number, h&w. quit putting 258-3999, Height 6'3", Weight 185. Just, collectively, stop making asses of yourselves. Go to East Texas, tour every small town, and ask every red neck with a fifth-grade education why they cheer for A&M and wear maroon. That is your fan base. This is why you are perceived by the educated masses as stupid.
8) Nobody cares if you think your band is better. They might be louder, they might march in neat little zig zags, but they have no musical ability. The point is, nobody cares who wins halftime. Quit getting geeked up about marching bands. I find it hard to believe you stood through your high school band's entire halftime performance. And why? Cause nobody cared then and nobody cares now. Plus, you can hear them fine sitting down even if you do care. Why is it cool all of a sudden now that you're in college?
9) Men should never let out high-pitched whooping sounds. Perhaps the only justifiable situation in which this can be tolerated is perhaps during an anal probe. Oh wait...I understand now.
10) Dogs are not ladies. They don't look or smell like ladies. Dogs eat their own feces and should be treated accordingly.
11) Finally, College Station is an arm-pit of a town. Quit pretending that it is a great college town. It is a town, and there is a college there. That should be the end of this comparison. If you feel that life doesn't get any better than the Dixie Chicken, and enjoy being stuck in a never-ending "Dukes of Hazard" episode, then move there. More importantly, don't move to Austin ... They are trying to create an educated, technological, and open-minded population base. Austin is, and will continue to be, the birthplace and final resting place of all that is cool.
As my friend, Stephen Johnson, once said: "If the world were ever to get an enema, College Station is where you would connect the hose." If you go to school at A&M, please don't be an Aggie.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 5:57 pm to The Orange Bull
Jim Rome didnt write that. If he did give me a link or an audio file. Rome doesn't know that much about our rivalry. I bet you also believe the emails you get that Andy Rooney said or that Obama is a radical Muslim.
Rome did however take shots at A&M after bonfire. So frick him.
Also, tl;dr. The few things I did read were misleading or flat wrong so go to a hippie gay rally and leave the football talk to the men.
PS - I hope Cedric Benson's bf is ok after the domestic abuse
ETA: nb4hemad
Rome did however take shots at A&M after bonfire. So frick him.
Also, tl;dr. The few things I did read were misleading or flat wrong so go to a hippie gay rally and leave the football talk to the men.
PS - I hope Cedric Benson's bf is ok after the domestic abuse
ETA: nb4hemad
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 6:04 pm
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