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Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:31 pm to WDE24
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:31 pm to WDE24
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To think they had verifiable evidence of money changing hands in one corner of the NCAA offices, but ignored it and reinstated Cam solely on the basis of info AU gave them is laughable.
Exactly, why would they have info and not take it into consideration?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:32 pm to Alahunter
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Alahunter
I can't scan though 69 pages of BS could you give me a cliff note?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:32 pm to AlxTgr
Actually it appears from your previous quote that they have two bodies one that deals from the athletes side and another that deals from the institutional side. The reinstatement side handles the eligibility of the student. Does it say anywhere the have no investigative capabilities?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:34 pm to WDE24
quote:Wait, no one is saying that.
To think they had verifiable evidence of money changing hands in one corner of the NCAA offices, but ignored it and reinstated Cam solely on the basis of info AU gave them is laughable.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:34 pm to Dribble
quote:DS claims he now has the name of the alleged bagman but would not reveal it because he was afraid he would be sued and forced to reveal the identity of his source.
I can't scan though 69 pages of BS could you give me a cliff note?
That is the only new info in the entire thread.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:34 pm to NYCAuburn
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The student-athlete reinstatement process provides for the evaluation of information submitted by an NCAA member institution on behalf of enrolled and prospective student-athletes who have been involved in violations of NCAA regulations that affect their eligibility.
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Student-athlete reinstatement decisions are based on an evaluation of the information provided to the staff by the involved school, given the NCAA reinstatement staff’s role is not investigatory in nature. While the student-athlete reinstatement staff may ask additional questions related to the reinstatement request, it is the school’s responsibility to provide all necessary information for the staff to consider.
LINK
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:34 pm to WDE24
How is this still going? How do you get 69 pges when a guy DOESNT name names? 
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:35 pm to WDE24
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I am saying the NCAA had been investigating the matter for months and didn't ignore information they already had (whether from enforcement or eligibility) and rely solely on what AU provided.
Link that shows this, please. Anywhere, that compliance or enforcement did this. Not the NCAA Prez who was getting lambasted and kept coming out trying to get the media off his arse. But from the folks who actually made the decisions.
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To think they had verifiable evidence of money changing hands in one corner of the NCAA offices, but ignored it and reinstated Cam solely on the basis of info AU gave them is laughable.
Again. They are separate from one another and do not base reinstatement on anything other than what is given them from the University at the time. Otherwise, please.. a link showing that both enforcement and compliance worked together on this 24 hr decision. From someone that didn't have a vested interest in getting the media off his back.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:37 pm to Alahunter
quote:So you want a link, but not the one from the head guy I already provided? Nice.
Link that shows this, please. Anywhere, that compliance or enforcement did this. Not the NCAA Prez
Show me the smoking gun, as long as it isn't that gun over there that is smoking.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:37 pm to WDE24
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DS claims he now has the name of the alleged bagman but would not reveal it because he was afraid he would be sued and forced to reveal the identity of his source.
That is the only new info in the entire thread.
Pretty much what I thought he would do.
Thanks WDE24.
ETA: - kick off can't get here soon enough.
This post was edited on 8/17/11 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:37 pm to Dribble
Basically been a bad day for some of our SEC West brethren.
Yahoo 10, Danny boy, FBI tapes all produced squat. (AU wise)
See post below. They a little upset.
Yahoo 10, Danny boy, FBI tapes all produced squat. (AU wise)
See post below. They a little upset.
This post was edited on 8/17/11 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:37 pm to Dribble
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I can't scan though 69 pages of BS could you give me a cliff note
Have no idea for 67. The last two, WDE is saying Cam's reinstatement was based on investigation by compliance AND enforcement staff. Even though the NCAA guidelines, state they do not work together and base reinstatement decisions, based on the info a University provides them of the investigation that said University has done.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:37 pm to WDE24
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So you want a link, but not the one from the head guy I already provided? Nice.
NCAA Prez not a reliable source
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:39 pm to WDE24
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Show me the smoking gun, as long as it isn't that gun over there that is smoking
I haven't stated anything about DS or Cam's guilt. I am simply contesting your claim that enforcement played a role in his reinstatement. You've made some definitive statements on how the NCAA handled that aspect, and it is in direct discrepency on how that is actually handled.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:40 pm to Alahunter
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Cam's reinstatement was based on investigation by compliance AND enforcement staff.
Well just to keep an open mind....
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:40 pm to blzr
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NCAA Prez not a reliable source
Not when his statements are after he's getting nailed by every major news source and is in direct conflict of how the NCAA departments actually work.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:40 pm to DonAUfan
quote:I'm not saying they had it. I'm sayin, the two work independant of one another. They people dealing with eligibility typically have no idea what the ongoing investigation has. They don't even ask.
Exactly, why would they have info and not take it into consideration?
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:40 pm to Alahunter
quote:I've simply repeated what the NCAA president said when discussing the Cam case specifically and how it was handled (and provided video evidence). Since he isn't reliable in your opinion, there isn't much else to discuss.
You've made some definitive statements on how the NCAA handled that aspect, and it is in direct discrepency on how that is actually handled.
This post was edited on 8/17/11 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:41 pm to Alahunter
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The last two, WDE is saying Cam's reinstatement was based on investigation by compliance AND enforcement staff. Even though the NCAA guidelines, state they do not work together and base reinstatement decisions, based on the info a University provides them of the investigation that said University has done.
You should have looked at Pages 65 and 66. What was stated was that they made their decision based on info that was provided by MSU and Auburn. It was stated that they don't share any info given to them and that is not correct.
Posted on 8/17/11 at 7:41 pm to AlxTgr
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They people dealing with eligibility typically have no idea what the ongoing investigation has. They don't even ask
Exactly. And what the NCAA says on their website. Contrary to WDE's claim.
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