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re: Damn, the LA Times calling out the SEC

Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24899 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:09 pm to
2004 sucked for us thats for sure. But I am not one that bitched for long. At a certain point i just had to laugh and say "frick the BCS". Every year someone is fricked.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29255 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:13 pm to
there is no such thing as a perfect system.

that's why i'm so glad we have nick fricking saban as our coach... we are bad arse... it's legit.. and no matter if we win or lose, people hate playing us.

roll frickING tide!
Posted by SeattleTide
Member since Oct 2007
53 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:13 pm to
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wrong. if we had been in auburn's position in 2004, we'd have been shunned too. believe it or not... that's the damn truth. there IS some semblance of a system they have to follow.

the two top ranked teams remained undefeated all season and they were both money maker schools. we'd have suffered the same sequence of events that auburn did.



Completely disagree. We would more than likely have jumped Oklahoma at some point late in the season in the human polls. Remember 2005 when the same discussions were happening around USC, Texas and Alabama prior to the LSU game and we were number three in the nation. I remember the ESPN talking heads saying that Alabama would probably end up jumping Texas in the computer polls if we won our last three games including the SECGC due to strength of schedule which was still a big part of the BCS rankings at that time. (Of course we didn't so it's water under the bridge.)
Posted by RedElephants
Pittsburgh Steelers Fan
Member since Feb 2009
8126 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:15 pm to
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SeattleTide


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Member since Oct 2007


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17 posts


Whoa, slow down there turbo!

Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22079 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:16 pm to
We all know what an experienced and offensive master-mind Lane Kiffin is, don't we?
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24899 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:16 pm to
M2pro, you are reminding me of me when I drink too much bourbon...
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29255 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:17 pm to
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SeattleTide


no way to know... i know it's all about money, and i know we'd pull in more money than Auburn... but one game is not what the whole thing is about to them, it's a sustained, long term money maker. if people realize their system is super ill-legit like you propose, then they lose money because people don't care about who wins.

people have to believe in how the system works. if the PEOPLE agree that the winner of a said system is the real champion, then money can flow.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24899 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:18 pm to
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SeattleTide


Sorry buddy, you are way too proud. But ignorance is bliss isn't it? I should know, I am an Auburn fan.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:19 pm to
Bill Plaschke is the douche w/ a lisp on Around the Horn ... a USC homer, Petey Carroll fellator. No love lost for Auburn, but if they win I guess it wouldn't be so bad to shut up oxygen sniffing, wine spritzer sipping light loafers like this fruit.
Posted by SeattleTide
Member since Oct 2007
53 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:21 pm to
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Whoa, slow down there turbo!



Hehe...tend to read more than type for the most part. (I'm mostly full of @#$% anyway. )
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24899 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:32 pm to
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tend to read more than type for the most part


Sounds like a good strategy for you.
Posted by SeattleTide
Member since Oct 2007
53 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:39 pm to
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Sorry buddy, you are way too proud. But ignorance is bliss isn't it? I should know, I am an Auburn fan.


It's not a pride thing IMO as it is a history thing. The system, right or wrong, (admittedly mostly wrong) is about maintaining the old guard. It's the same reason Notre Dame, which I hate, gets a free shot at a National Title if it goes undefeated or a BCS game if it finishes in the top 8 even though it plays a joke schedule. Alabama rides a big wave of national recognition from the 60's and 70's, something other schools simply don't have.

A buddy of mine put it in a really interesting way. What if you replace Boise St. and TCU with an undefeated Notre Dame and Ohio State at three and four this year. With that, ask yourself this question, does the NCAA give Cam Newton an emergency overnight free pass vs. Alabama or does it take it's good 'ole sweet NCAA time, let Auburn sit him out and avoid all the bad press?
Posted by SeattleTide
Member since Oct 2007
53 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:41 pm to
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Sounds like a good strategy for you.


Touche'
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24899 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:44 pm to
undefeated non-AQ + Oregon with one loss while being ranked higher + Alabama with one loss ranked behind them = non-AQ/Oregon national championship. With no chance of Bama jumping Oregon if SEC perceived power is diluted.
Posted by LawC
Member since Nov 2010
714 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:49 pm to
When it comes to turning out NFL players, at the start of this season, the SEC averaged 26 active pros per program and the Pac-10 averaged 22 pros, but the Pac-10 continually dominates the depth charts at the most important position ? quarterback.

i saw this and called BS

Starting QBS
Jimmy Clausen- non AQ
Matt Ryan- ACC
Josh Freeman- Big 12
Drew Brees- Big 10
Eli Manning- SEC
Donovan Mcnabb- Big East
Tony Romo- non AQ
Mike Vick- Big East (played before VT switched)
Aaron Rogers- PAC 10
Jay Cutler- SEC
Brett Favre- non AQ
Shaun Hill- ACC
Matt Hasselbeck- Big East (played before BC switched)
Derek Anderson- PAC 10
Sam Bradford- Big 12
Alex Smith- non AQ
Tom Brady- Big 10
Mark Sanchez- Pac 10
Chad Henne- Big 10
Ryan Fitzpatrick- non AQ
Ben Roethlisberger- non AQ
Joe Flacco- non AQ
Colt Mccoy- Big 12
Carson Palmer- PAC 10
Peyton Manning- SEC
Matt Schaub- ACC
Vince Young- Big 12
David Garrard- non AQ
Matt Cassel- PAC 10
Tim Tebow- SEC
Philip Rivers- ACC
Jason Campbell- SEC

non AQ- 8
SEC- 5
PAC 10- 5 (3 of which are from USC)
ACC- 4
Big 12- 4
Big 10- 3
Big East- 3

so dominating wouldnt be the right word
Posted by BaconTheSaddleAgain
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
148 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 12:25 am to
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By Bill Plaschke


That's all I needed to see.

This guy is like 0 and 1,028,713 on Around the Horn. He makes a living off of being a incorrect douche bag.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7702 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 1:16 am to
They use Kiffin as a source.

Posted by chasseur4
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
586 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 1:26 am to
Here are the facts:

Oregon 3-0 vs teams ranked in top 25
Stanford 2-1 vs teams ranked in top 25
******
Alabama 5-3 vs teams ranked in top 25
LSU 5-2 vs teams ranked in top 25
Auburn 5-0 vs teams ranked in top 25

Go figure.

Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 2:07 am to
There is so much wrong with Plaschke's article that I don't know even where to begin. I will start on a small note: The 3 best quarterbacks in the NFL call Tennessee, Purdue, and Michigan their alma mater.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 2:13 am to
SEC not performing in bowl games this season is not helping matters....
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