RedElephants

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I'm saying he wouldn't be the same player that he is at Kentucky if he was at Bama

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No... You said....

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We wouldn't be that much better.

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But you're right, he wouldn't be the same player. His assist numbers would have probably been down but his scoring way up. But Bama would have been a MUCH better team.

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If Retin left after his junior year, he would've likely been headed to a similar school. Just because someone transfers to a mid-major doesn't mean they belong there.

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Exactly. I mean Collins transferred to Morehead after his first year at LSU.

Look, I'm not saying that Collins is a bad thing. I'm excited about the addition...but he will be here for just a single season. If you look at the stats, Coleman and Collins had nearly mirror image stats from their first 2 seasons. As a SO, Collins averaged 1 more point than Coleman playing in the OVC while JC avg'd 1 more assist while playing a min less per game.

My point is that discarding a player based on first and year stats is silly. Look at the way Jamareo Davidson improved over his tenure: he didn't have a great low post game when he got here but ended up being really good on the block and his midrange improved drastically. Who's to say JC wouldn't have improved his ability to finish at the rim?

If I have a choice between Collins in only 16-17 and Coleman for 2 more years, I go Coleman every time. Maybe that's just me, and I could be completely off here.

And for the person that said Riley Norris is overrated...maybe his play isn't the best or flashiest, but nobody on the team gives more effort than that guy.

You guys put way too much stock into a players FR or SO years. Too critical. Look at players like Retin, Levi, Mikhail Torrence, CHUCK DAVIS, and several others. They were flat out bad when they got here but ended up being major contributors by the time they left Alabama. I think Coleman could have been that kind of player.

We need to pump the breaks with this mentality that we can scoop up one and done players like the blue bloods that can be major contributors from day one. We could get there, but not overnight.

I think our football success clouds our judgment when we are talking basketball.

With that said, we need Daniel Giddens. I've seen him play and it's just what we need.

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Good guys.

I saw a guy on Twitter compare Katin to JR Smith saying that he isn't scared to jack it up from anywhere.

Quite frankly, I want him to come here just for that. He's a good sized guy too.

Experienced. I don't care if he's been to 2 schools already. We need a guy like that now to jump start our program.

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dude is paranoid, thin skinned, and extremely predictable.

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So he's the black Nick Saban?

Not sure if serious...Miller can barely move and would be an absolute liability on defense.

Bama may have a bust or 2 in the NFL but no team in any sport anywhere in the world has had as many busts as LSU once the players got to campus and didn't get coached up. The ones that do make it tend to start playing out of their minds all of the sudden (see OBJ).

As long as Bama keeps winning titles with future busts, it's fine with me...as long as those busts do not land on a Steeler roster.

Instead of the criticism of Bama players in the NFL, you may want to look at Les Miles and your own team for not developing HS talent properly. A college coaches job is to win games, not to get players ready for the NFL. Saban does that...Miles doesn't do either.

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62 tackles, 3 ints, 19 passes defended in 16 games

64 tackles, 2 ints, 13 passes defended in 16 games

one of these is dee milliner's first 16 games (which is how many hes played in total), one of these is patrick peterson's first 16 games. which do you think is which?

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Why bring facts and comparisons to the table?

'08 and '12 Auburn.





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