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re: Dabo's complaint w/ onsidekick was that Clemson had no chance to catch ball
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:09 am to Tiger_Man61
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:09 am to Tiger_Man61
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The return team is always allowed a chance to catch the ball while in the air even if no one is around. That's why the kicker tries to bounce it into the air then it's anyone's ball.
They try to bounce it so that they can't call a fair catch. If there's no one there to catch the ball, then you don't have to worry about that.
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:09 am to BamaELCo
There should be NO fair catch on kickoffs. Ever. Keep it sime, as it was before. Should only be allowed on punts.
Kickoffs are different, because it's a live ball, not a change in possession.
Kickoffs are different, because it's a live ball, not a change in possession.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:19 am to iglass
Here it is.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:25 am to MartyMoose09
#1's first instinct in that situation should have been to raise his hand for a fair catch. Had he done that, It would have been kick catch interference.
Again, Dabo and his staff are a bunch of dumb asses for thinking you automatically have a right at a clean recovery without signaling a fair catch.
Also, what a brilliant call by Bama.
Again, Dabo and his staff are a bunch of dumb asses for thinking you automatically have a right at a clean recovery without signaling a fair catch.
Also, what a brilliant call by Bama.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:32 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
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There should be NO fair catch on kickoffs. Ever. Keep it sime, as it was before. Should only be allowed on punts.
They exist because guys on the reviving team were getting killed trying to catch the ball in these situations.
Back in the day, teams would send a LB on the kick off to simply obliterate the guy trying to field the ball on the receiving team. The rule was put in for player safety.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:32 am to Tiger_Man61
The rule for KCI requires a player from the receiving team to be in position to make the catch. Rule 6-4-1:
A player of the receiving team within the boundary lines attempting to catch a kick, and so located that he could have caught a free kick or a scrimmage kick that is beyond the neutral zone, must be given an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick.
It would be hard to interpret any Clemson player to be so located.
A player of the receiving team within the boundary lines attempting to catch a kick, and so located that he could have caught a free kick or a scrimmage kick that is beyond the neutral zone, must be given an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick.
It would be hard to interpret any Clemson player to be so located.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:32 am to BamaELCo
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Clemson had no chance to catch ball
It might help to have a player within 10 yards of the ball to actually have a chance to catch it.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:33 am to RB10
Bama came out in a tight bunch so Clemson by adjusting and bunching up themselves were not in position to get the ball as they had no idea what was coming. It was a great kick by the kicker, and caught Clemson completely offguard.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 8:34 am
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:36 am to RB10
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Had he done that, It would have been kick catch interference
I don't think so. No one interfered with his ability to catch the kick.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:44 am to pvilleguru
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I don't think so. No one interfered with his ability to catch the kick.
It would have been flagged IMO. It's a judgement call by the refs and we've all seen how those tend to go.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:58 am to auzach91
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I was wondering what woulda happened if a Clemson dude waved for a fair catch
Wouldn't have matter since he was not in position to catch it. What cheese would go with dabo's whine?
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:03 am to CrimsonTideMD
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CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:05 am to RB10
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It would have been flagged IMO
He was running as fast as he could and the ball still would have landed 5 yards away from him. They weren't going to throw a flag. He was too far away.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:10 am to RB10
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#1's first instinct in that situation should have been to raise his hand for a fair catch. Had he done that, It would have been kick catch interference.
yep. had he raised his hand, it would have nullified the play.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:13 am to monsterballads
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yep. had he raised his hand, it would have nullified the play.
False.
No Clemson player was even close to being able to catch the ball. Other scenario is Clemson fair catches, but ball hits ground and Bama still recovers.
A fair catch doesn't mean the ball is dead. The catch still has to be made. Clearly, Clemson had no player close to being able to catch the ball.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:15 am to pvilleguru
Agree, he can wave all he wants, he wasnt catching that ball.
It was a great play. Deal with it
It was a great play. Deal with it
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:16 am to Hawgeye
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A fair catch doesn't mean the ball is dead. The catch still has to be made.
Yeah, but if it's signaled and the Bama player catches the ball before it hits the ground, catch interference can be argued.
The incompetence of college officials leads me to believe they would have thrown the flag.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:20 am to Hawgeye
quote:Or the ball bounces in a way not to allow Bama to recover or the Bama guy catches it and is penalized.
Other scenario is Clemson fair catches, but ball hits ground and Bama still recovers.
To pretend it is certain the outcome would have been the same is silly. Didn't really matter, it was a gutsy call that was flawlessly executed.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:34 am to Hawgeye
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False.
No Clemson player was even close to being able to catch the ball.
if he raises his hand for fair catch, it doesn't matter if he catches it or not. bama couldn't have touched it first and got possession. same rules as a punt.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 9:35 am
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