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re: CWS Semi's (Winner to Finals): Arkansas 2, South Carolina 3 FINAL

Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:11 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:11 am to
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That pitch #6 looks to be a borderline pitch....could go either way, and an argument can be made for either call. In this case, the call went against Arkansas' way.....


You're right in that it could go either way, but it could only be correctly called a strike. A pitch right down the middle could be called a ball, but that doesn't mean it should have been called a ball.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:21 am to
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You're right in that it could go either way, but it could only be correctly called a strike. A pitch right down the middle could be called a ball, but that doesn't mean it should have been called a ball.


No.

To be more clear, Pitch #6 is represented to be as much outside of the depicted strike box - in other words, a ball - as it is represented to be inside. So when I say that an argument can be made either way, I mean that the pitch is as much a legitimate ball as it is a legitimate strike.

The Ump does not have that yellow box outline floating above home plate for him to use as a reference. There were other more flagrant examples of bad calls by that Umpire than the one above...that one can be readily attributed to a 50/50 call that had to go one way, and it just went an opposite way of the Hogs...
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28588 posts
Posted on 6/23/12 at 4:40 am to
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No.

To be more clear, Pitch #6 is represented to be as much outside of the depicted strike box - in other words, a ball - as it is represented to be inside. So when I say that an argument can be made either way, I mean that the pitch is as much a legitimate ball as it is a legitimate strike.

The Ump does not have that yellow box outline floating above home plate for him to use as a reference. There were other more flagrant examples of bad calls by that Umpire than the one above...that one can be readily attributed to a 50/50 call that had to go one way, and it just went an opposite way of the Hogs...


The ball only has to touch the strike zone as it passes home plate for it to be a strike. Ball #6 is a strike according to the rules, but I agree an ump could call it a ball b/c he doesn't have the floating box. The thing is, he called strikes for USC that were not in the strike zone at all, so it's not like he had a consistently tight strike zone - it fluctuated depending on which team was pitching.
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 4:41 am
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57884 posts
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:02 am to
Pitch 1 caught less of the plate than pitch 6, but he called it a strike. He had no problem calling it when it was just strike 1.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28588 posts
Posted on 6/23/12 at 5:03 am to
Good point.
Posted by 3moredays
Member since Sep 2009
398 posts
Posted on 6/23/12 at 6:19 am to
It is a lot easier to see the higher pitch cross part of the zone than the low pitch.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 7:13 am to
Damn arky went and arked
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 12:51 pm to
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Damn the umps went and umped


FIFY
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:09 pm to
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The thing is, he called strikes for USC that were not in the strike zone at all, so it's not like he had a consistently tight strike zone - it fluctuated depending on which team was pitching.


I like how you (and most other Arky fans here) are totally dismissing the fact that the umpire squeezed Colby Holmes early in the game as well, which played a part in his poor performance. As well as a clear blown call at home on Marzilli's slide that should have made the score 4-2. Both teams were stung by the terrible performance of the umpire, not just Arkansas.....
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28588 posts
Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:37 pm to
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totally dismissing the fact that the umpire squeezed Colby Holmes early in the game as well


proof?


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As well as a clear blown call at home on Marzilli's slide that should have made the score 4-2


Inning should have been over before that.

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Both teams were stung by the terrible performance of the umpire, not just Arkansas.....


Yeah, but it cost Arkansas the game and not USC.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15339 posts
Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:54 pm to
I like how you (and most other USC fans here) are totally dismissing the fact that this same guy has done this to Arkansas before. How do you explain that?
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:56 pm to
We still doing baseball threads about the flagship?
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57356 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:57 pm to
The frick?
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25316 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:58 pm to
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We still doing baseball threads about the flagship?


Well..they do have a lot of "appearances" in Omaha.
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:58 pm to
Hogsession is reaching new heights
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57356 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:59 pm to
Stony Brook has one as well.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25316 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 3:24 pm to
Find an SEC team that has Dogpiled in Omaha in three or more different uniforms!!!!!!!





This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 3:25 pm
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 3:24 pm to


This would have been a solid bump before we play them in the season. Heads in the right place, timing is off, 6/10.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25316 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 3:29 pm to
Speaking of "exclusives" How long is the list of Championship Game Walk Off Home Runs in Omaha? Is one a good number?

This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57356 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 3:29 pm to
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Find an SEC team that has Dogpiled in Omaha in three or more different uniforms!!!!!!!



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