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Curious what everyone thinks as it's kind of been lost in all this - Cal or Muss?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:34 pm
If you had the choice between both guys who would you rather have today? Seems to have kind of been lost in the UK/Arkansas thing, but Muss was pretty celebrated by Arkansas folks until about 2 months ago.
I'd take Cal, though not by a landslide or anything. It's an interesting comparison because they've been mirror opposites the last 5 years. Muss has really only had 1 "really good" regular season, but had 3 solid tournament runs. Cal had 4 really solid regular seasons and 0 good tournament runs (granted, 1 tournament when he had a good team was cancelled for COVID).
I'd take Cal, though not by a landslide or anything. It's an interesting comparison because they've been mirror opposites the last 5 years. Muss has really only had 1 "really good" regular season, but had 3 solid tournament runs. Cal had 4 really solid regular seasons and 0 good tournament runs (granted, 1 tournament when he had a good team was cancelled for COVID).
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 1:35 pm
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:35 pm to Temple of the Dog
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:36 pm to Temple of the Dog
Cal by a hair because I think he’s more stable and consistent. I love Muss as a coach though.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:39 pm to hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:39 pm to Temple of the Dog
Neither, personally. One is a floater, and the other is basically an ADHD wacko.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:39 pm to Temple of the Dog
Both need to adapt and improve their x’s & o’s
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:40 pm to Jon Ham
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Cal by a hair because I think he’s more stable and consistent. I love Muss as a coach though.
Agree - I think the best tournament philosophy is that if you keep getting a team there with a good seed (Top 4 or so) year after year, you are probably eventually going to break through*
* Unless you are Wimp
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:40 pm to Temple of the Dog
Motivated Cal.
Muss’ Elite 8s and Sweet 16 were a bit misleading and covered up some mediocre seasons
Muss’ Elite 8s and Sweet 16 were a bit misleading and covered up some mediocre seasons
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:51 pm to Jon Ham
I don’t know but I bet muss would have crawled to uk over usc
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:54 pm to Temple of the Dog
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Curious what everyone thinks as it's kind of been lost in all this - Cal or Muss?
To me it’s pretty much tit for tat, I said tit..haha. Both bring in new players every year who are mostly one and done but cal is better in the regular season. Seems like it took muss too long to settle on a lineup and it cost him during the regular season.
Cal gets and uses top freshman players who are very good but veteran players usually have the upper hand for success, Muss showed how difficult it was to work with top freshmen one year.
Under the circumstances I’m happy with the hire.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:02 pm to Temple of the Dog
Cal with BIG NIL vs. Muss with little NIL is a no-brainer.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:08 pm to hawgfaninc
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Both need to adapt and improve their x’s & o’s
I can assure you cal isn't changing how he coaches. Good luck with that.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:38 pm to Temple of the Dog
I'd take either of them, but I'd rather have Cal today. I was getting soured on Muss. Every year his teams would have a big problem and he'd wait until the end of the season to fix it, if it got fixed at all. I'm also not a fan of pro coaching in the college game, because college teams need more refinement.
We were lucky to have Muss when we did and Danyelle was wonderful. I never wanted Muss to be fired, but I've been ambivalent about him for the last 2 years. Starting each season with a completely new team got old, as well.
We were lucky to have Muss when we did and Danyelle was wonderful. I never wanted Muss to be fired, but I've been ambivalent about him for the last 2 years. Starting each season with a completely new team got old, as well.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:19 pm to redeye
our regular season records were terrible.... and it finally caught up with him. Cal by a landslide for several reasons.
Recruiting
PR
Better season records
leading to better seeding in tourney
Recruiting
PR
Better season records
leading to better seeding in tourney
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:25 pm to Temple of the Dog
I'm sorry that Muss left, but pretty excited to have Cal.
If Cal is motivated then we could have some immediate success.
I wish nothing but the best for Muss
If Cal is motivated then we could have some immediate success.
I wish nothing but the best for Muss
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:34 pm to Temple of the Dog
Muss was so obnoxious. Glad he's out of the SEC.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:35 pm to Glorious
The only mediocre season was the Sweet 16 run. The other two seasons were 25+ win seasons with Elite 8s.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:40 pm to Razorback Reverend
If Muss would have done better in the regular season and got seeded better in the NCAA tournament then he would have had a final four here.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:44 pm to nicholastiger
They would get tired of him just as quickly when he was at Arkansas.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:47 pm to Temple of the Dog
I'll take the guy with six final four appearances vs the guy who caught some lucky breaks in the tournament.
Cal and it is a landslide.
Cal and it is a landslide.
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