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re: Corso's saying UT and Oklahoma leaving Big 12 in next 5 years most likely 4 SEC

Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:43 am to
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:43 am to
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OU wants to be considered a top research university more than anything else


Wanting and reality are not the same thing. Nebraska getting kicked out of the AAU should have been the wake up call for the Sooners. I think Oklahoma is sitting around 100 but Georgia (who is not AAU) is sitting closer to 50. While 50 spaces may not seem like a lot, it is monumental for a group dropping schools to get to 50 or 60. If memory serves, they would have to double their current research just to pull even with South Carolina.

Even if they go up, do you think the schools ahead of them doing 1/2 billion to 2 1/2 billion per year are just going to stay where they are? The pool is not static and not sure how Sooners ever get the kind of money to really compete.
Posted by joshua2571
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:44 am to
Would Houston come to the SEC? I think both would benefit .
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:46 am to
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UTex/the B12 has already gone on record that it will not invite BYU, due to the university's "homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia."


Seems like Baylor would support them
Posted by A LeBlanc
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:47 am to
I may be wrong on this but wouldn't UGA be in if there medical center was on campus

I have seen the Leghumpers blame Ga Tech in keeping them out

Back to Oklahoma their problem is the same as their medical facility in is OKC not Norman
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:54 am to
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These Aggy fans think that no one wants UT and that A&M is now the #1 university in Texas

And we finally get to the heart of what's gotten lester all lathered up in this thread.

Folks not wanting the horns to contaminate their respective conferences has nothing to do with Texas A&M University; UTex did it to themselves.
Breathe, guy.
Posted by Bubbles Up
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:55 am to
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Not true at all. In 2011 everyone was suppose to go to the PAC 12 and you bailed


You can spew it all you want, but documented and published facts tell you that you are wrong.

tu tried to broker a deal behind our backs that would have put tu, A&M, OU, Tech, CU, and OSU in the PAC. We made it very clear that we wanted to no part of it when we found about it. CU caught wind and went on their own before anyone could frick it up. Larry Scott, told Dr. Loftin (per his book) that they were going to have a conference network, Dr. Loftin told Larry Scott that tu had indicated differently, and that they would be able to have their own network (LHN). THIS, and this alone is what blew up all of y'all (minus A&M) going to the PAC as a block.

Later, in 2011 after A&M and Missouri joined the SEC, OU and OSU made a pitch by themselves to join the PAC without tu. They were rejected.

Read the newspaper, read Dr. Loftin's book, and get some facts. Because you really don't know shite.
Posted by Bubbles Up
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:59 am to
A LeBlanc = lestertheghost = texashorn = Randy Duke
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:59 am to
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UTex/the B12 has already gone on record that it will not invite BYU, due to the university's "homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia."

Seems like Baylor would support them

BYU’s Honor Code includes the following:

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Homosexual behavior is inappropriate and violates the Honor Code. Homosexual behavior includes not only sexual relations between members of the same sex, but all forms of physical intimacy that give expression to homosexual feelings.

Apparently Baylor removed a similar policy in 2015; TCU has no such policy (they have an openly gay assistant AD).
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:59 am to
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I may be wrong on this but wouldn't UGA be in if there medical center was on campus


If memory serves, UGA never really cared if they got AAU. Historically GT was the research school (like ENG) and UGA was the teaching school like LAW and A&S (meaning less research dollars, but still a Top 50 university). I view UGA historically like Notre Dame or Georgetown in their academic focus.

While I may bust Tech's nuts on tRant, they really should have been in the AAU decades ago. It has always appeared the AAU had an bias against the south. Even if the Med center was in Norman (which would help) the top schools are so far ahead it is impossible to close the gap. Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Missouri, and Florida are all in but probably 4 SEC schools are in-between them and Oklahoma. Nobody is saying Oklahoma is terrible, it is just a exponential number as you rise more than a linear one.

B1G added Johns Hopkins in the past year or so just to claim that multi billion annual research money was theirs (like adding Rutgers just so the B1G could say they played the first college football game). Basically, for Sooners to catch up, where would you see them adding 1/2 billion or more in the next 5 years? Top research schools are quickly becoming the Billionaire Boys Club which means OU needs another 700 to 800 million to compete.
Posted by A LeBlanc
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:01 am to
You actually believe that crap you read in the 100 year decision


I have a copy underneath my sick in the bathroom just in case something ever happens and I need toilet paper I have something I could put use to and allow it to serve a purpose in this world because the words on its paper are not serving any kind of purpose
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:01 am to
so you bought a copy? interesting
Posted by Bubbles Up
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:03 am to
Someone ban this troll.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:04 am to
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Apparently Baylor removed a similar policy in 2015


The Griner Effect?

They may have removed it but they still seem to hate most people including gays and blacks. I guess they wanted to win more than pray so let it slide with Griner.
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:09 am to
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The Griner Effect?

Bingo.
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Basketball player and alum Brittney Griner criticized the school’s policy in 2014, writing in her book In My Skin that she would “love to be an ambassador for Baylor, to show my school pride, but it’s hard to do that — it’s hard to stand up and say, ‘Baylor is the best!’ — when the administration has a written policy against homosexuality.”

LINK ]Why Baylor University’s sexual conduct policy no longer calls out ‘homosexual acts’

Baylor is arguably the nation's most morally (and otherwise) corrupt institution, regardless of any policy stating otherwise.
But that's another thread.
Posted by A LeBlanc
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:10 am to
1 billion dollars in research money is not anything at all
University of Washington receives 950 million dollars just from the federal government not even mentioning any of the private corporations

Research money comes from your faculty. They ask for grants on what they are studying and researching so universities with better faculty receive additional money.
The two most important things for a professor in college are being published and second bringing in money

To go back to Oklahoma for them to find 1 billion more dollars of research money they must run in circles that either receive that money or invest in some faculty that is involved with biotechnology
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 11:27 am
Posted by A LeBlanc
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:14 am to
You think I wasted money on a copy

How crazy. I actually found it being used as a door stop
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:16 am to
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Then would Bama and LSU stay playing every year
Who else would Bama play in the West. Definitely not Ole Miss or State. Not enough meaningful history.



Arkansas
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:18 am to
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University of Washington receives 950 million dollars just from the federal government not even mentioning any of the private corporations


Huskies have been a research star for ages, pretty sure they have been in the Top 10 for ages (which reinforces my point). Washington got in the AAU after WWII so not like they are the school trying to get in.

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To go back to Oklahoma for them to find 1 billion more dollars of research money they must run in circles that either receive that money


That is part of it but the bigger part is they must usurp somebody in the research bread line who is ahead of them, therein lies the rub.

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The two most important things for a professor in college are being published and second bringing in money


Sadly I tend to agree with you but that is the modern system. Which is why I respect the service academies for making it all about teaching. Vanderbilt is the oddball as their best college is Education, but many never realize this.
Posted by A LeBlanc
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:29 am to
Oklahoma is making decisions based on what is best for them academically first and athletically second
This may change in the future but as for now OU is tied more to Texas than it is Oklahoma State


They can jump positions in that line if UT can allow them to ride on their coattails into the BIG or PAC 12
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 11:30 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:30 am to
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Oklahoma is making decisions based on what is best for them academically first and athletically second


So you are saying both will be joining the PAC?
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