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re: Confirmed: NCAA investigation of Auburn continues
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:15 am to bama my heart
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:15 am to bama my heart
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:16 am to bama my heart
The NCAA often combines multiple investigations into one school all into one. It very well could be that the investigation into the Cam incident is mostly finished, but the NCAA is still looking at other things (street agents, HBO4, etc.). Just a thought.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:18 am to bama my heart
I think the media caused the NCAA to act.
Things were getting out of hand.
Douchebags like Thayer Evans were starting to report on Cam's confidential academic record (which were refuted by Florida).
Imagine every news agency out there started reporting that Trent Richardson was bought. That he was a bad person. That he shouldn't be on the field.
We have to remember that we're dealing with young men. Even if they make mistakes, we can't treat them like objects.
If the reports affected Trent's play, that would not only mess up Trent's life but infuriate Alabama fans.
So you would want the NCAA to at least do something to quell the storm even though they were going to investigate the matter over the long term.
Just my two cents.
Things were getting out of hand.
Douchebags like Thayer Evans were starting to report on Cam's confidential academic record (which were refuted by Florida).
Imagine every news agency out there started reporting that Trent Richardson was bought. That he was a bad person. That he shouldn't be on the field.
We have to remember that we're dealing with young men. Even if they make mistakes, we can't treat them like objects.
If the reports affected Trent's play, that would not only mess up Trent's life but infuriate Alabama fans.
So you would want the NCAA to at least do something to quell the storm even though they were going to investigate the matter over the long term.
Just my two cents.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:28 am to bama my heart
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bama my heart
The arm of the NCAA that handles players eligibility issues is the one that cleared Cam.
The Enforcement Arm of the NCAA which investigates coaches, admin, boosters, etc. is the one that has yet to conclude. Is how I understand it anyway.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:32 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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The arm of the NCAA that handles players eligibility issues is the one that cleared Cam.
I think the key to Cam's eligibility was them using the pharse, "at this time." Leaving the door open if more info was found later.
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The Enforcement Arm of the NCAA which investigates coaches, admin, boosters, etc. is the one that has yet to conclude. Is how I understand it anyway.
Which probably remained open due to your boys running their mouths to HBO.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:33 am to LSUdm21
Just wanted to post in here. 
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:38 am to tigerfan4120
This is what the NYtimes didn't tell you.
The conversation between CHiz and the NCAA started from a Q & A session specifically designated for any questions the coaches had for the NCAA.
The session began with Tennessee coach Derek Dooley calling for the NCAA to speed up investigations because lengthy probes are killing recruiting,
Just and example of how journalism can leave out details to make a story sound different.
The conversation between CHiz and the NCAA started from a Q & A session specifically designated for any questions the coaches had for the NCAA.
The session began with Tennessee coach Derek Dooley calling for the NCAA to speed up investigations because lengthy probes are killing recruiting,
Just and example of how journalism can leave out details to make a story sound different.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:41 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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The arm of the NCAA that handles players eligibility issues is the one that cleared Cam.
The Enforcement Arm of the NCAA which investigates coaches, admin, boosters, etc. is the one that has yet to conclude. Is how I understand it anyway.
Kind of, you are right when you say there are 2 committee's, but your purposes are a little off.
There is a committee that is devoted solely to eligibility issues. They do everything from checking grades, dealing with transfer issues, and in the case of Cam Newton, possible infractions that would effect eligibility. They dont actually do investigations on this though. The only info they use to make their decisions is the info provided by the schools themselves. So when they cleared Cam, it was based solely on the information provided to them by Auburn and possibly Miss St if they talked to them.
The committee on infractions has investigators that go out and attempt to dig up evidence to prove allegations against a team. They actually do the investigating themselves instead of relying solely on the word of a coach, AD, etc.
The "Clearinghouse" can clear a player to play and then the infractions committee can later come back and say that they were in fact NOT eligible because the clearinghouse was working off of inaccurate information. Sometimes this information is conveyed to them as a mistake, sometimes schools just flat out lie. This is where the infractions committee decides whether sanctions are in order or not.
This post was edited on 7/14/11 at 9:43 am
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:49 am to AUtigR24
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Just and example of how journalism can leave out details to make a story sound different.
How does that make it any different?
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:51 am to Dribble
it makes dooley be the bad guy, and chizik the one who tries to get dooley's back
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:52 am to Dribble
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How does that make it any different?
I guess cause Dooley brought up the subject first? Not really relevant in my humble opinion. Mean Gene is the one that went off on her about never being told when the investigation was over.... which it never was.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:52 am to HailToTheChiz
Riiiiiight..
Posted on 7/14/11 at 9:54 am to HailToTheChiz
quote:OK...
it makes dooley be the bad guy, and chizik the one who tries to get dooley's back
Posted on 7/14/11 at 10:03 am to AUtigR24
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This is what the NYtimes didn't tell you.
The conversation between CHiz and the NCAA started from a Q & A session specifically designated for any questions the coaches had for the NCAA.
We as Auburn fans need to admit that Chizik made a mistake in asking this question.
If all is clear on Auburn's front, then don't worry about it until the NCAA says something.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 10:04 am to townhallsavoy
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Imagine every news agency out there started reporting that Trent Richardson was bought.
I heard Mom was very expensive for the REC. I'm also sure that all 17-18 year olds with 3 year old kids are fine, upstanding citizens that are healthy contributors to their community & society at large.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 10:05 am to ThaKaptin
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Roe Lach: The cases you mentioned were decided by our Student-Athlete Reinstatement department, which is actually housed in the Academic and Membership Affairs branch. That group decides all athlete eligibility issues. I work in the enforcement side and we investigate and deal with institutional responsibilities, boosters, coaches, administrators. I don’t go and talk to them. If issues come up that’s one thing. (The compliance offices) understand there are different processes in play. Those discussions, if they have questions, comments, support, or concerns, would be directed towards our Academic and Membership affairs group.
This is what I was trying to remember and where my answer was derived from. This was in response to a question about the controversy surrounding OSU players cleared to play in the Sugar Bowl and Cam Newton being cleared.
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 10:11 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
So why did Chizik feel the need to act like Billy Badass in the meeting?
Posted on 7/14/11 at 10:13 am to townhallsavoy
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I'm more worried why Chizik decided to ask about it at that meeting.
Just a guess ~ Gene wanted a direct answer from the NCAA. Why else would he have continued to press the Newton investigation issue with Roe in a public forum?
He wanted a definitive answer, no pussy-footin around about it. It's affecting his recruiting, because he and his coaches are more than likely having to field questions about it from recruits, parents, etc.
I honestly think Chizik thought and believed that the Cam issue was wrapped up last year.
Well, he pressed Roe too far and she obviously felt the need to give him a direct answer regarding the investigation.
Not sure Gene wanted the answer she gave, but a least he knows now, and so does Jacobs.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 10:14 am to AUnite
Chizik had to act like Cartman in front of the whole school and Wendy beat him down.
Posted on 7/14/11 at 10:15 am to RT1941
he wanted a direct answer, if he was worried about something then he wouldnt have said something in front of everyone else
odds are he is frustrated that the ncaa takes their sweet time with everything they do
odds are he is frustrated that the ncaa takes their sweet time with everything they do
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