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Posted on 7/19/11 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/19/11 at 11:58 pm to
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You just tried to compare Sherman to the only coach since 1936 with a national title at two different schools. Nevermind Saban's recruiting prowess, or never having a losing record as a college head coach.


Sherman did better in the NFL and he turned the A&M program around. He's not Nick Saban but I don't think that was the point of the comparison. He turned a down program around. Alabama wasn't seen as a destination before Saban.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 7/19/11 at 11:59 pm to
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And Alabama has won it with four other head coaches too. How does that even remotely relate to Texas A&M?


Bear and Stallings coached for A&M.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86842 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:00 am to
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We beat the shite out of them in 09. 49-19 I think was the score.



But Sherm wasn't Saban in 09
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86842 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:00 am to
quote:

I realize he left and wasn't fired but the point is he wasn't in Bama long enough to eff it up. Be thankful he's gone.

Hopefully Sherm is our Saban



Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:01 am to
I FORGOT!!
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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57810 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:02 am to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:05 am to
quote:

Sherman did better in the NFL and he turned the A&M program around. He's not Nick Saban but I don't think that was the point of the comparison. He turned a down program around. Alabama wasn't seen as a destination before Saban.


I wasn't aware that a 19-19 record is turning a program around.

And Saban also didn't have the luxury of a future NFL Hall of Fame QB to ride to the playoffs

Alabama has always been a destination job. It just takes an arrogant enough coach to take the job. It's not for everyone, but most coaches have success.

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Bear and Stallings coached for A&M.


The aggie was trying to make a comparison about Fran leaving Alabama, and UA eventually winning a national title 6 years later. Since Fran "left" College Station too, he's trying to draw a parallel. Nevermind Fran leaving had less to do with Alabama wining another title, as opposed to it just being a job that leads to great success for the right coach.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:08 am to
I wasn't comparing the reasons they left. Purely said I hope Sherman has the success that Saban has. Nothing more. Nothing less was implied
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86842 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:09 am to
quote:

I wasn't comparing the reasons they left. Purely said I hope Sherman has the success that Saban has. Nothing more. Nothing less was implied



You already stated you think you will be in New Orleans playing against an SEC team.

We would smack you against the wall even worse than before.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:11 am to
quote:

I wasn't aware that a 19-19 record is turning a program around.


He went 9-4 last year though and they're favored in most of their games this coming year. They haven't been good since the wrecking crew.

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Alabama has always been a destination job. It just takes an arrogant enough coach to take the job. It's not for everyone, but most coaches have success.


Is that how we ended up with Dubose and Shula? Remember Mark May saying “why would Saban leave Miami and the beach for the trailer parks of Bama?”

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Nevermind Fran leaving had less to do with Alabama wining another title, as opposed to it just being a job that leads to great success for the right coach.


I do think Fran would have put the Bama program back but I really don't know. Losing 77-0 to OU and the newsletter thing were pretty bad.

Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:11 am to
Memphis, I dis not. In jest I said with a little luck we could get there.

Saying it's a possibility with luck needed isn't exactly running smack
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:18 am to
quote:

Is that how we ended up with Dubose and Shula? Remember Mark May saying “why would Saban leave Miami and the beach for the trailer parks of Bama?”


Dubose was a fan favorite for the job in 1997, and one of Bear's boys. That's why he got the job. You damn well why Alabama had to turn to Price and Shula. It's the same reason that Fran left.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:25 am to
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Dubose was a fan favorite for the job in 1997, and one of Bear's boys. That's why he got the job. You damn well why Alabama had to turn to Price and Shula. It's the same reason that Fran left.


I agree with you. I'm just saying we had a 10 year period where we weren't exactly a super-power.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:29 am to
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I agree with you. I'm just saying we had a 10 year period where we weren't exactly a super-power.


The difference, relative to what the Aggie fan was saying, is that Alabama has been there and done that time and again. Texas A&M hasn't in the poll era. I'm simply saying the parallel was not justified with regards to history.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:30 am to
I did not compare the two as coaches. I didn't compare our programs.

I simply said I hope Sherman has the success at A&M that Saban has had at Bama
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:35 am to
quote:

The difference, relative to what the Aggie fan was saying, is that Alabama has been there and done that time and again. Texas A&M hasn't in the poll era. I'm simply saying the parallel was not justified with regards to history.


Well most teams aren't going to be able to compare history with Alabama, Notre Dame, etc. RC Slocum did finish in the top 25 in 10 out of 14 years. I really do think A&M is an easy program to win at. They had some really crappy coaching and program management.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:14 am to
Big 12 unanimously votes to increase payouts to schools
June 3rd, 2011.

LINK

"Previously, the Big 12 distributed 57 percent of football and basketball TV dollars equally among its 12 members. But with Colorado and Nebraska gone, the 10-team league has decided to spread 76 percent of the dollars equally. It is one of the biggest changes since the Big 12 was formed in 1996 and was agreed upon unanimously Friday, the final day of conference meetings."

""There was some angst," said Texas A&M athletic director Bill Byrne. "But I can't tell you how pleased I am with the way it ended."

"Nevertheless, the huge boost in revenue for all 10 members will be substantial."


Usual Smoke Screen by the Aggies to display displeasure towards the LHN (Longhorn Network)

Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:23 am to
Also....

Texas will keep the SEC out of the state of Texas and they have enough money to shut up the Aggies.

Why would Texas want to let part of it's self dominated state be saturated with SEC marketing and Teams? They DO NOT need the money.

When you have enough money you always keep your competition down and out. Texas has just that.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:31 am to
LINK

July 19th, 2011.

A&M has added a closed-door session concerning the Longhorn Network to its regents’ regularly-scheduled meeting on Thursday and Friday, a person with knowledge of the situation said Monday. The agenda item is dubbed “Big 12 Conference.”

"The insider said A&M is committed, for now, to making a 10-team Big 12 work, and that the threat of a potential move to the Southeastern Conference is not in the immediate future. The Aggies nearly bolted the Big 12 for the SEC last summer, after Nebraska left for the Big Ten and Colorado for the Pac-12, before last-hour financial pledges for the remaining members by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe kept the league intact."



Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
72571 posts
Posted on 7/20/11 at 1:37 am to
quote:

threat of a potential move to the Southeastern Conference is not in the immediate future.


They can deny it all they want but everyone knows they will be discussing this.
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