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re: Condolences and prayers to the Aggie student who died last night.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:08 am to LSUstephen17
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:08 am to LSUstephen17
Thoughtful thread, thank you Stephen
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:28 am to LSUstephen17
Deepest sympathies and prayers for her ,her family and friends as well as all of A&M. Never should have happened!
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:52 am to LSUstephen17
Here.
T&P for her family.
T&P for her family.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:59 am to EKG
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Ultimately, the crowd surged towards the stage, crushing many people.
In addition to the nine deaths, scores of people were seriously injured.
The litigation from this event will be in the $millions.
Was this like The Who concert in the 70's?
I thought they had created laws after The Who tragedy to insure it did not happen again.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:04 am to Cheese Grits
Seems after The Who tragedy concerts immediately did away with general admission, but over the past 2-3 years have noticed several bigger concerts at FedEx, etc, having a pit area of standing GA at the front and assigned seats behind them. Probably not dangerous if they only have 5-7 rows of people standing, but apparently some concerts/festivals have gone back to the whole floor being general admission.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:23 am to Jma313
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Travis Scott needs to be charged with negligent manslaughter
and found guilty and put in prison
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:24 am to MedDawg
Back in 1995 Nine Inch Nails had a concert at the Carolina Coliseum ( I worked there at the time) in which the entire floor was set up as a no chair Mosh pit. No one was injured but it got hairy several times. Never allowed another set up like that again.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:27 am to Jma313
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Travis Scott needs to be charged with negligent manslaughter
What he really needs is to be condemned as fairly useless and then discarded by a culture that celebrates and honor people of substance
Not to the exclusion of criminal charges if he's culpable, of course
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:14 pm to Cheese Grits
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Was this like The Who concert in the 70's?
I thought they had created laws after The Who tragedy to insure it did not happen again.
It was similar to The Who and the Hillsborough soccer stampede (around 100 killed there). The difference is that in those two cases, the crush was people trying to get into the venue instead of a crush inside the event. In the case of The Who, the concert never stopped. The band had no idea what had happened because everything inside the arena was just fine.
Some places have banned general admission/standing room only tickets or limited the number based on floor space but not everywhere. Even when they're limited, if the crowd gets out of hand in an enclosed place there's always a chance something like this could happen.
Being that I'm a 54 year old white dude, I've got no idea who this performer is or what his shows are like but it's really important to let the investigation run it's course before making blanket statements about what happened. Several people got killed at an AC/DC concert back in the 1990s in very similar circumstances. They too played on for some time before stopping simply because they didn't know how serious the situation had become.
For those that wonder why your program gets fined for rushing the field - this is why. A bunch of football fans rushing against a wall or fence can trigger the same outcome. Also, after this expect the next field rushers to get a lot stronger punishment than $250k.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:27 pm to Mulkey Man
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They also have video of a couple of people pleading with the stage security or crew to stop the show.
Wow if that is out there someone is fixing to file for bK.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:34 pm to FLObserver
So sad for everybody involved!!
Posted on 11/12/21 at 1:28 pm to JustGetItRight
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For those that wonder why your program gets fined for rushing the field - this is why. A bunch of football fans rushing against a wall or fence can trigger the same outcome. Also, after this expect the next field rushers to get a lot stronger punishment than $250k.
People can definitely still be hurt rushing the field in American football but it’s exceptionally rare and nowhere near the level of what happened during the Liverpool soccer tragedy. The problem there was that you could not get out of the cages erected and people died because of it. Had they been able to access the field far fewer people would have died.
The crowd tried its best to lower people out of the stands and onto the field to avoid the death crush but almost everywhere was caged. Rushing the field would have saved lives had it been an option.
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/12/21 at 1:31 pm to Pettifogger
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What he really needs is to be condemned as fairly useless and then discarded by a culture that celebrates and honor people of substance
That culture went bye bye in the 60’s homie
Posted on 11/12/21 at 1:38 pm to LSUstephen17
Prayers. Also ask for prayers for the Ole Miss senior who also died at the concert. Beautiful blonde girl. So sad.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:20 pm to Prof
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it’s exceptionally rare and nowhere near the level of what happened during the Liverpool soccer tragedy.
I didn't mean to imply that you could see something similar to the soccer crush. I agree that's not really possible the way our stadiums are set up.
People can, though get seriously injured and killed when pinned or trampled by people rushing the field. It is, as you said, very rare but so are people getting trampled at music concerts and yet here we are.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:55 pm to Mulkey Man
That not what happen, They just had 50k People in a confined space with no barriers to separate the crowd and people died to crowd crush. 9 People died from asphyxiation.
Document was leaked|Along with Houston PD that said the Artist wasnt allowed to stop the show only Live Nation could.
Document was leaked|Along with Houston PD that said the Artist wasnt allowed to stop the show only Live Nation could.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 3:13 pm to BurnsideStyle
Why in world would anyone downvote my post about about the OM girl? She has a family that is grieving also. Everyone needs grace and prayers here. So sad for the Aggie student and their family of course as I said. It’s not about our damn football teams.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 3:25 pm to Pettifogger
He'll just pay off the survivors families since his GF is a billionaire.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 4:16 pm to LSUstephen17
Apparently the concert continued for almost 40 minutes after security saw that there was a major problem. Why on earth didn’t they just shut down the power to the stage? Horrible for those people and their families.
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