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re: Concussion Lawsuits set to decimate collegiate sports; 50+ expected to be filed

Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:03 am to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:03 am to
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20k a year for an absurdly high chance of multiple concussions.. and let's face it.. they are severe injuries. You're talking about damage to a kids brain.

Plus, if the concussions are causing mental issues, then that kind of undermines the value of a college education
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:19 am to
The shite degrees already take care of that

Here's the nail in the coffin if this is taken to court

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The Jenkins plaintiffs are suing the NCAA and the five major conferences and seeking an injunction to allow a free market. The plaintiffs want to end NCAA rules that “prohibit, cap or otherwise limit remuneration and benefits” to football and men's basketball players in those leagues. The suit also wants to prevent the NCAA and the five conferences from creating rules that prevent schools from “negotiating, offering, or providing remuneration” to the players “in compensation for their services as athletes.” The class attempts to represent all Football Bowl Subdivision football players and Division I men's basketball players from the date of the complaint until the final judgment. The Jenkins case is consolidated in California with the Shawne Alston cost-of-attendance suit. But the Jenkins case, which would return to New Jersey if it reaches trial, has been trying to work on a faster track since it's not seeking class-action damages.


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Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:27 am to
How can you "attempt to represent all FBS players" if
they don't give you permission to do so?

This suit also completely violates Title IX laws at least for public universities.

Its dated from almost 20 months ago.Im sure its in the sytem or been thrown out by now.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:28 am to
This is the problem:

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Chicago-based law firm Edelson, PC filed six suits in federal courts across the country, on behalf of ex-college football players. These men say their schools, the athletic conferences and the NCAA knowingly hid the dangers and risks of playing football and didn’t do enough to protect students. The firm expects to file dozens of similar lawsuits, which could eventually involve tens of thousands of former college football players. In January, a federal judge ruled in a related head-injury settlement against the NCAA that former players could pursue personal injury claims as part of a class-action lawsuit. The ruling opened the doors to the suits filed Tuesday.


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Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:36 am to
Nope.

From 2 days ago:

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Lawyers for the NCAA and a group of conferences that are facing two lawsuits challenging the association’s compensation limits for athletes on Monday asked a federal judge to dismiss the cases. The NCAA and the conferences argue that the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals’ ruling in the Ed O’Bannon antitrust case — which allowed a compensation cap to stand at athletes’ full cost of attending school — requires that the cases be decided in their favor without further action.

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Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:38 am to
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This is the problem:


If by "problem" you mean sleazy trial attorneys.I completely agree.

y their schools, the athletic conferences and the NCAA knowingly hid the dangers and risks of playing football and didn’t do enough to protect students.

Would love to see this evidence but they really don't teach much science in front of an ill informed emotional jury.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 5:24 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:45 am to

This suit also completely violates Title IX laws at least for public universities.
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The same way lawyers represent people versus major video game developers, medical malpractice, etc. You don't have to give permission you just have to be hurt by the defendants actions. That's how class action suits work.

As for Title IX you would have to pay female athletes but only proportionately to male athletes. That can be fixed by cutting coaches salaries or raising prices.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:53 am to
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thoughts?


Where are the cheerleaders, gymnasts, and soccer players? Softball, baseball, field hockey and lacross should be up there too. IIRC, cheerleading has far more concussions than football and it is every bit as dangerous. Oh wait, no one is arguing that cheerleaders and others should be paid.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:55 am to
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If by "problem" you mean sleazy trial attorneys.I completely agree.


It would appear that you have formed your opinion of the scenario well in advance.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:58 am to
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IIRC, cheerleading has far more concussions than football and it is every bit as dangerous


Um, that doesn't seem right.

Study on cheerleader health risks

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The new study is the first to compare injury rates of high school-sanctioned cheerleading to other sports. Using a large national sports injury database, Currie and his colleagues found that while overall injury rates among cheerleaders were lower than most other high school sports, the injuries that do occur are more severe.


Did you mean to say that if you are injured, then as a cheerleader you're more likely to suffer a concussion? That seems to be what the study indicates.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:02 am to
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It would appear that you have formed your opinion of the scenario well in advance.



Of sleazy trial attorneys?Absolutely correct!

Unfortunately know way too many and a couple that got filthy rich on class actions suits.And don't care a hair's arse about the people they're representing.

But once again,I would love to see long term,scientific studies when it comes to head trauma and CFB.Currently,
the science is minimal but thats never mattered to trial attorneys
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 9:08 am
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:03 am to
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Did you mean to say that if you are injured, then as a cheerleader you're more likely to suffer a concussion? That seems to be what the study indicates.


Yes, I was referring to concussions and catastrophic injuries not all injuries in general but cut me some slack I haven't finished my first cuppa joe yet.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:15 am to



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As for Title IX you would have to pay female athletes but only proportionately to male athletes. That can be fixed by cutting coaches salaries or raising prices.


Huh?The 1st suit wants it make it a defacto bidding war to pay for the services of FB and Basketball players...there's absolutely no way you pay dollar for dollar for all athletes in that scenerio.

There's NOTHING about "proportionality" in Title IX...females are getting the exact same stipends and COA as male athletes and it s clearly stated as much and there would be multiple lawsuits the first time you even attempted to amend the wording.

This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 9:23 am
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