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re: Computers: "4 of the Top 5 are SEC"... Humans: "No, 4 of the Top 5 are Big Ten"
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:55 pm to zounami
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:55 pm to zounami
We really need to remove the media completely from the equation.
If you're not a blue blood the media will actively work against you.
I know most of ya'll feel that.
Why do you think the SEC has gotten shafted the past few years?
Because we were anchored to a network we were leaving and they weren't fighting for us on that front, they were working to set the Big 10 teams up for the future.
If you're not a blue blood the media will actively work against you.
I know most of ya'll feel that.
Why do you think the SEC has gotten shafted the past few years?
Because we were anchored to a network we were leaving and they weren't fighting for us on that front, they were working to set the Big 10 teams up for the future.
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:26 pm to zounami
Here's the average of the 5 BCS computer rankings that are still doing 2024:
1. Oregon
2. Ohio St
3. Texas
4. UGA
5. Penn St
6. Bama
7. IU
8. ND
9. Miami
9. Ole Miss
11. SMU
12. BYU
13. Clemson
13. UTjr
15. A&M
16. SCar
17. Boise
18. Colorado
19. Iowa St
20. Arizona St
21. Tulane
22. Army
23. Illinois
24. UNLV
25. Wazzu
1. Oregon
2. Ohio St
3. Texas
4. UGA
5. Penn St
6. Bama
7. IU
8. ND
9. Miami
9. Ole Miss
11. SMU
12. BYU
13. Clemson
13. UTjr
15. A&M
16. SCar
17. Boise
18. Colorado
19. Iowa St
20. Arizona St
21. Tulane
22. Army
23. Illinois
24. UNLV
25. Wazzu
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:49 pm to zounami
That's just 1 computer.
And the rankings aren't generally good either IMO.
And the rankings aren't generally good either IMO.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:50 pm to 3down10
I did all 5 computers in the post above yours.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:54 pm to Miznoz
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If you're not a blue blood the media will actively work against you.
Huh?
2023 - Michigan, blue blood
2022 - Georgia
2021 - Georgia
2020 - Alabama, blue blood
2019 - LSU
2018 - Clemson
2017 - Alabama, blue blood
2016 - Clemson
2015 - Alabama, blue blood
2014 - Ohio St, blue blood
So over the past 10 years it's been 50% NC by blue bloods and 50% by other teams. And most of the blue blood ones is just Alabama.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:02 am to GoGators1995
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Here's the average of the 5 BCS computer rankings...
That doesn't look right, GoGators1995... Can you please specify which 5 computer models you averaged (and provide links)... For example, none of the computer models I've seen have Army or Wazzu anywhere near the Top 25.
With that said, the BCS computer rankings were notoriously inaccurate because they only allowed a team's win-loss record to be considered... points (margins of victory/loss) could NOT be factored in. The rationale was that the BCS didn't want to encourage teams to "run up the score" as it was deemed unsportsmanlike at the time.
Sagarin often criticized the BCS for this limitation.
Anyway, I'm interested in looking at the models you averaged. Please provide the links. Thank you.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 12:06 am
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:10 am to GoGators1995
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I did all 5 computers in the post above yours.
As I mentioned in the reply above, I think those averages you posted are wrong...
Specifically, which 5 computer models did you average?...
Please provide links so I can double-check your math.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:27 am to GoGators1995
I find it hard to believe computers average Washington State at 25 when Sagarin has them 59th.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:15 am to zounami
quote:
• Latest AP Top 25
1. Big Ten
2. Big Ten
3. SEC
4. Big Ten
5. Big Ten
Number 3. SEC who? Who would that be.
Say it...
TEXAS not sec TEXAS
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:34 am to hookem2522
Calm down. It won’t be for long
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:41 am to zounami
Great. zounami on the Rant.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:28 am to zounami
I tend to agree with the humans. Alabama is a very flawed team this year. Having Oregon 7th and alabama 1st tells me something is wrong.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:29 am to zounami
Everyone loves AI until it tells you something other than what you want to hear.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:30 am to zounami
People who vote has biases. If the computer is set up right, there will be no bias. It just facts.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:34 am to zounami
I think there should be a balance between human polls and computer polls like the BCS. But, the field is at 12, so if you aren't objectively in the top 12, I genuinely don't care. It's too many already.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:34 am to momentoftruth87
I see you’re one of those people if you can’t be there you wanna destroy everything.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:47 am to TouchdownAlabama
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I have to laugh at how everyone lobbied for a playoff expansion lowkey because they hated how they felt the SEC benefited from it more than any other conference, not thinking about how it opened the floodgates for more SEC teams to get in.
Well they are fricking around and about to find out. When the top 4 our all SEC teams the crying will be even louder.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:58 am to momentoftruth87
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Also with OPs desire should vandy be a playoff team? They certainly showed they can beat the best.
This is a bad take and here's why, lots of teams have shown they can beat the best, without also showing that they can lose to Georgia state & 3 other teams
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:01 am to zounami
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this kind of subjective bias in the ranking systems
Simply picking the "best" teams to play in the playoffs is BY DEFINITION a subjectively biased system.
The only objective way is a tournament of conference champions.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:03 am to zounami
I assumed the humans on the committee would use polls and computers to help them. They are actively ranking the SEC lower than both.
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